Hi, On Jul 4, 10:20 pm, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas <[email protected]> wrote: > > Crockford's rules are backed by pretty strong logic. I'd recommend > > reading "The Good Parts" ... he has some compelling arguments. > > I'll take a look when I have some free time.
http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/ It is very, very well worth taking the time watching the videos - even if it takes a couple of hours total! I managed to convince several programmers to at least take a look, and they all ended up watching almost all of it. Crockford is the inventor of the JSON format - but more important, he is credited with being largely responsible for spreading the news that JS is a great modern programming language. Several now widely used patterns for encapsulation, inheritance (prototypical or classic), etc. are his design. He isn't just some random programmer, he carries enormous weight in the JS community (meaning more those on the top including in the ECMA commities etc., those who "only use" the language unfortunately are not all aware of him - as can be seen here). > As I said, once you know the reasoning you can follow his suggestions. > It just happens that we don't use minifiers at our company since Excuse me, but here we are talking about the JS in Rails, a framework used by thousands! > Javascript is cacheable and there is no such "one-time users" thing with > our products. The overhead is also negligible for not using any JS > minifier. I mean, even if the JS code is reduced to 1/3 that would mean That is WRONG. Please multiply the homepage by the nr. of hits. Okay, the reasoning for Google and Yahoo is orders of magnitude stronger... Pls. also have a look at the research mentioned somewhere at Yahoo, in one of those videos above by a Yahoo (JS) engineer in one of the other videos I believe about users and page loading. From personal experience I agree with their findings. Way too many pages even of big professional sites (who should know better!) waste my time and make me very impatient with loading of way too much stuff before I get to see anything. It's one thing for an app (e.g. gmail), but when I load a page for German-English translation to look up a word and have to wait several seconds - even though there's just one lonely input field... anyway, cutting down from 800ms to 500ms page load time IS a huge deal! If you feel it is not necessary pls. go ahead and don't minify your code - but pls. leave that option open for the rest of the Rails users. We are talking about the rules for a widely used framework, not about individual decisions. Great discussion though. Michael -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Core" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-core?hl=en.
