Hello,

*Arel *is a Relational Algebra for Ruby and if I can recall correctly at the
moment it uses ActiveRecord's connection adapters. It would be useful to
make it standalone but since it's quite dependent on Rails, any unconvincing
use-cases for Rails app will never be appreciated. In that case, making it
independent of Rails sounds like the first logical step.

Please give your opinion.

Anuj
@andhapp


On 26 April 2011 21:17, Arthur Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:

> Oh, there isn't. The question is really whether the current Arel library
> is still useful as a standalone library (could be made useful without
> too much bloat) or whether Arel-standalone should be developed separately.
>
> Arthur
>
> On 26/04/11 22:05, Jason King wrote:
> > I don't see that the use case is that compelling for the majority of
> > Rails apps .
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Arthur Taylor
> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >
> >     Aaron, all,
> >
> >     Did anyone have any strong feelings about the following feature -
> >     is it
> >     something that it's going to be possible to get included (possibly
> >     in a
> >     prettied up form), or am I better forking / monkey-patching?
> >     > The idea with the placeholders is that you could have one query
> >     which
> >     > serializes differently to SQL (or through any of the visitors)
> >     > depending on the dynamic value of the placeholders. The effect I
> >     want
> >     > (and am using in my local repo) is not to have to define the
> >     values of
> >     > all the query terms at query build time:
> >     >
> >     > @placeholders = { :username => "bob" }
> >     >
> >     > query =
> >     >
> >
> @users.project(@users[:id]).where(@users[:name].eq(Arel::Nodes::Placeholder.new(:username,
> >     > @placeholders)))
> >     > query.to_sql =>  "SELECT `users`.`id` FROM `users` WHERE
> >     > `users`.`name` = 'bob'"
> >     >
> >     > @placeholders[:username] = "adam"
> >     > query.to_sql => "SELECT `users`.`id` FROM `users` WHERE
> >     `users`.`name`
> >     > = 'adam'"
> >     >
> >     > Make sense? Sound useful? I'm not sure that's the most elegant
> >     API in
> >     > the world (in fact I'm pretty sure it's not), but I'm open to
> >     > suggestions as to pretty ways to achieve the same thing.
> >     >
> >     The other design I considered would be:
> >
> >     @placeholders = Arel::Placeholders.new(:username => "bob")
> >
> >     query =
> >
> @users.project(@users[:id]).where(@users[:name].eq(@placeholders.for_key(:username)))
> >     query.to_sql =>  "SELECT `users`.`id` FROM `users` WHERE
> >     `users`.`name`
> >     = 'bob'"
> >
> >     @placeholders.update(:username => "adam")
> >     query.to_sql => "SELECT `users`.`id` FROM `users` WHERE
> >     `users`.`name` =
> >     'adam'"
> >
> >     which seems a little more elegant.
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >
> >     Arthur
> >
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