A forum is not as effective as mailing lists for people like me.

Usually you will only access a forum for asking questions and not to reply to them. This also makes it less likely that your question will be answered.

In a mailing list you'll see all messages that comes through them. Eventually you'll see a question that you're able to reply even though your main interest in the list is making questions instead of answering them.

I have searched for "engine" in the Rails-talk list and I found that that list is probably not very effective for such subject:

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/PqCTofRUSrM/ZXmbOmB_368J <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/PqCTofRUSrM/ZXmbOmB_368J> ( app-prefix for tasks defined in an engine?! - no answers)

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/XvrZOOcsmD8/6sAQjLWB1QcJ <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/XvrZOOcsmD8/6sAQjLWB1QcJ> (self replied)

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/OkE9zq5APVQ/6IgaWmZIirUJ <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/OkE9zq5APVQ/6IgaWmZIirUJ> (same)

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/iMDlv-U5Kyc/r1uvnconwlIJ <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/iMDlv-U5Kyc/r1uvnconwlIJ> (no answers)

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/b_gStTqQXvA/vQNSqsF2muIJ <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/b_gStTqQXvA/vQNSqsF2muIJ> (no answers)

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/1IofgiCKbUQ/69eaQeOGvG8J <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/1IofgiCKbUQ/69eaQeOGvG8J> (no answers)

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/5T0g8ADL_4w/4BgZItDw260J <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/5T0g8ADL_4w/4BgZItDw260J> (no answers)

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/K6cgyimLb5Y/2YlNZPsPFM4J <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/K6cgyimLb5Y/2YlNZPsPFM4J> (no answers)

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/JpLBcLhu2PA/p4-xpg6iC2cJ <https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#%21searchin/rubyonrails-talk/engine/rubyonrails-talk/JpLBcLhu2PA/p4-xpg6iC2cJ> (no answers)

This is pretty typical in Rails-talk and I'd say this would represent about 80% of the top results for "engine" search in that group.

And there is a lot of regular questions like database modeling, validations, etc there too.

I still think that a focused mailing list on Engines or more advanced stuff could be interesting for dealing with experienced Rails developers.

You will also find by looking at that group that the people that are most likely to be the ones that know best the answers are not subscribed to rails-talk but to rails-core only.

Lots of them don't even seem to be subscribed to rails-core even and I'd suspect the core members have a separate mailing list or other means of communicating between themselves.

That is why I think a focused general questions list about advanced subjects could be interesting.

I hope you understand what I mean.

Cheers,
Rodrigo.

Em 22-07-2012 20:32, Ryan Bigg escreveu:
All this talk of categorization sounds almost like there should be some kind of Rails forum for discussing things in, rather than isolated mailing lists.

There's an engine for that. https://github.com/radar/forem

On Sunday, 22 July 2012 at 5:36 AM, Luís Ferreira wrote:

Yes, but engines kinda sucked before 3.1. Now a lot more people are using them.

+1 for the list.
On Jul 21, 2012, at 2:29 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote:

Here's a past one...

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/

dead!

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 8:28 PM, Ryan Bigg <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
rails-talk is a ghetto.

A new engines list would be best.

On Saturday, 21 July 2012 at 11:27 AM, Andrew Kaspick wrote:

Engine lists have been created in the past, but they're not very active or are dead.

-1 to a new engine list and +1 to just asking the questions in rails-talk first

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 7:41 PM, TuteC <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
+1

Agree that a Rails engine is in the frontier between custom app code
and Rails architecture, yet a client (and not core) of Rails.


On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 1:20 PM, Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> It is not always clear whether we should use Rails-talk or Rails-core list.
>
> In the same way we have a list for Rails documentation and we had one for > i18n, would you consider a new list oriented to Engine/Plugins developers?
>
> This would be a list we could subscribe for engine-related questions that > would't have a very big traffic like the Rails-talk one and I think such a
> list could be pretty useful for gem authors.
>
> Would that be wanted?

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