It would be interesting to see how much of an overhead making that
extra HTTP connection actually adds to the page, and whether it's
asynchronous or not. My gut tells me that the overhead would be very
small, although the fact that we are manipulating the DOM means that
there must be some overhead.

I would love to see the different browsers add this kind of behaviour
to XHR object natively as an option.

On Nov 8, 6:35 pm, Matt Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It simulates a traditional browser request, delays the interface as if
> it were in the process of refreshing, that is the difference.  This is
> going to add weight to the interface so if you have are trying to
> shave seconds this might not be wise.  As a usability asset i think it
> is pretty handy if it were completely cross browser.
>
> I noticed similar behavior in my ajax history solution as it processes
> a form submission into an iframe to register a history event with the
> browser w/o top document reload.
>
> http://positionabsolute.net/blog/2007/07/javascript-history-service.php
>
> Utilizing this would reveal similar loading behaviors in the browser
> as well as allowing history support.
>
> On Nov 8, 12:50 pm, Kelvin Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > @Jerod - Using one of the browser connections could be an issue if you
> > hit a page on the same domain as your AJAX request. For this reason,
> > the default is that it hits a page on loajax.com, althought his can be
> > easily changed.
>
> > On Nov 8, 5:22 pm, "Jerod Venema" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > To some degree it may be more "obvious", but people have come to really
> > > understand the typical built-in browser page load indicators. Having both
> > > would be idea, IMHO. I think it's a pretty cool idea, although using up 
> > > one
> > > of the connections for a request that's never intended to complete may be
> > > less desirable in some situations.
>
> > > -Jerod
>
> > > On Nov 8, 2007 11:21 AM, Brian Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> 
> > > Typically i show an animated graphic that work is being done and lately I
> > > > have been using a hidden form input/div to store whether or not an Ajax
> > > > session is in place that way if they happen to miss seeing the animated
> > > > graphic they get an alert saying that something is going on.
>
> > > > Then call the clearing function in onComplete and OnFailure.
>
> > > > On Nov 8, 2007 9:49 AM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > But isn't it easier and more obvious for the user to show the typical
> > > > > spinning wheel while ajax content is loaded?
> > > > > Or did I miss something?
>
> > > > > Alex
>
> > > > > 2007/11/8, Kelvin Jones < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > > > > > In some browsers it's more obvious than in others.
>
> > > > > > For example, in IE7 you can see the spinny thing turn, but in 
> > > > > > Firefox
> > > > > > & Opera you get an egg-timer as well.
>
> > > > > > Come to think of it... changing the cursor might be an interesting
> > > > > > option to have... any thoughts?
>
> > > > > > On Nov 8, 1:03 pm, "Richard Quadling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > Ha ha. Shall we tell him?
>
> > > > > > > Look at the browser spinner/throbber.
>
> > > > > > > On 08/11/2007, RobG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > On Nov 8, 8:43 am, Kelvin Jones < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > Hi everyone,
>
> > > > > > > > > Just a quick post to let you know of a new prototype add-on 
> > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > I've
> > > > > > > > > created called LOAJAX.
>
> > > > > > > > > LOAJAX adds real browser feedback to Prototype's Ajax calls.
>
> > > > > > > > OK, you've got me.  I don't see any difference regardless of
> > > > > > browser,
> > > > > > > > is that the point?
>
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > Rob
>
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > -----
> > > > > > > Richard Quadling
> > > > > > > Zend Certified Engineer :
> > > > > >http://zend.com/zce.php?c=ZEND002498&r=213474731
> > > > > > > "Standing on the shoulders of some very clever giants!"


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