Exactly -- or so I am learning. Look, the scriptaculous stuff. for instance, is laden with examples. Trying to do the same thing in rails, though purported to be "easier," and more expeditious, is actually a complete pain -- the absence of exampls & documentation really holds you back and squanders my time. Heneforth, as a matter of design philosophy, I think we are FAR better tos stick to html/ javascript/css and only use rails to tie back into on the server side.
THAT SAID....I am wondering where I tie rails into the source on: http://www.gregphoto.net/sortable/advanced/ and if I cannot tie into it somehow, easily, might as well find a different mechanism than RoR -- to my way of thinking and my limited experience with RoR, if it cannot at least do that easily, it's pointless to pursue as a viable platform for web development. -Janna B. On Jun 26, 4:29 pm, Conrad Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > Janna, this was mentioned at Railsconf 2009 during the Rails Core > Panel talk. It was actually the second question from the start of the > talk. In short, one should understand the underlying technologies > instead of trying to always abstracting it away. > > -Conrad > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 11:04 AM, JannaB <[email protected]> wrote: > > > And I further agree with you -- I think we all need to bite the bullet > > and become js experts rather than depending on Rails to do it for us. > > The problem is, if I look at all this JS that I am seeing in this > > example, I am trying to discern where in my rails app I pick up these > > values? -Janna B. > > > On Jun 26, 2:02 pm, JannaB <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thanks Fred, > > > Yes, this is immensely frustrating -- I've lost 3 days working on > > > this, and looking at examples that don;t cut it -- there is a vacuum > > > of documentation really, and it seems to be a very RoR thing "Yes, > > > this is fast and easy to do in RoR with this library/plugin/gem," but > > > when you go to actually do it, you are left with total trial and > > > error. > > > > No wonder the dork frameworks like Java Struts are so much more > > > prevelant. In truth, those frameworks may just be faster and easier to > > > use -- I've been trying to accomplish things here that frankly don;t > > > pay off in terms of the time curve. No one seems to know how to use > > > the Scritpatuclous library's aside from mickey mouse effects. > > > > -Janna B. > > > > On Jun 25, 11:43 am, Frederick Cheung <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > On Jun 25, 3:32 pm, JannaB <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > If I look at a page with a Scriptaculous example like: > > > > anks Fred > > > > >http://www.gregphoto.net/sortable/advanced/ > > > > > > And I can view the html/js source of the page -- my question becomes, > > > > > how do I implement this, or wire this into, my rails app? -Janna B > > > > > You need to , one way or another, generate the javascript that sets up > > > > the scriptaculous stuff (ie create instances of Sortable for > > > > appropriate dom elements and so on). There are helpers > > > > (draggable_element and so ) that sort of do this for you but > > > > personally I feel that most of that stuff is a bit of a crutch and > > > > that you'd be better off biting the bullet and learning enough > > > > javascript/scriptaculous that you can just write it on your own. > > > > > Fred --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
