The real issue that experienced programmers will point out about anything that comes with a giant IDE is that, ultimately, the IDE is an absolute necessity. Many of the frameworks supported by heavy IDEs are so verbose that it's simply impossible to set everything up by hand (see the current state of Java web apps for an example - XML 'til it hurts!).
Furthermore, quite a bit of the functionality in Visual Studio - things like creating app skeletons, etc - is essentially covered by the CLI generators that packages like Rails provide. Maybe not as glitzy, but they work. Finally, the value of having the entire platform's source code can't be overstated - it may be intimidating at first, but reading the Rails source can be extremely valuable to a new developer. It's also the documentation of last resort... :) --Matt Jones On Aug 1, 4:54 pm, Marcus Muller <[email protected]> wrote: > Not trolling here, but genuinely trying to figure out what to use for a > project I'd like to create. I'm very new to programming (some intro > classes at university) and am debating between learning asp.net versus > ruby on rails to create the project. > > I'd very much prefer to learn ruby, but it seems like the asp.net IDE is > better for someone new to web programming like myself. The ability to > use a wysiwyg design view in visual studio is a big plus to me since I > don't know how to seriously code pages, buttons, drop downs, tree menus, > and other stuff. Sure, I could learn this given some time, but I > actually have limited time and would prefer not to attack all of this > from the ground up. > > I tried loading textmate and, while I appreciate how great it would be > if I knew what I was doing, there seems to be less "hand-holding" for > someone like myself. I was pretty daunted by the big blank page in the > middle! My first impression of Visual studio was that it seems to > provide more support and have more tools I can use like properties > dialogs, the wysiwyg design view, etc. There was just more I could > immediately relate to as opposed to textmate. > > I assume I'm missing something here and am looking for help. Is there a > good integrated IDE that allows me to code RoR and also do wysiwyg > design to cut corners on the web design aspects of things? > > Thanks in advance. > > msm > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
