Hello; Great post from Conrad ! Thanks !
I have also been using textmate to do the HTML and CSS but started using the Adobe products lately which speeds things up quite a bit. Agile development turns non agile once you're finished with the modeling and all the back end biz if you're not using a good tool for the presentation layer. I found out that there was an extension for DW once which enabled you to edit all ruby files within DW including code completion support but I couldn't get it to work with the latest release. K.Pince On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 3:41 PM, Conrad Taylor <[email protected]> wrote: > On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Peter De Berdt <[email protected] > > wrote: > >> If you want a performant, well structured and easy to maintain web >> application, you HAVE to put it together with some kind of text editor. And >> in fact, just using TextMate and it's autocompletion and macros, everyone >> who has decent HTML+CSS knowledge will be able to assemble a well designed >> page very quickly, whether you start from a Photoshop mockup or not. Any >> dedicated and respected web agency these days "handcodes" their designs. >> >> But hey, if table-based design or table-based design where <tr> is >> replaced with <div> is your kind of thing, go ahead and use Dreamweaver, >> Frontpage or Microsoft Word. You're going to hit a concrete wall when you >> actually have to make those designs dynamic (with any web app language for >> that matter) and your pages will have more body than most ppl who had >> Thanksgiving yesterday. >> >> > Peter, I tend to use Fireworks CS4 to slice up the PSD to generate HTML, > CSS, and images. This gives me the initial cut of the design in HTML and > CSS. Then I'll use both Dreamweaver CS4 and Textmate. Dreamweaver has > embedded the WebKit engine so that I can see the changes to my site code > without opening a browser. Thus, I tend to do most of the CSS and HTML in > it. Next, I use Textmate mostly for the RoR and Ruby specific things > because Dreamweaver provides the ability to invoke Textmate from DW. > In short, I use the best tool(s) for the job and I haven't hit any walls > but leveraged other toolsets. > > -Conrad > > On 27 Nov 2009, at 10:38, Kemal Pince wrote: >> >> If you want to have fancy looking web pages (and customers do, by the way) >> it takes too long to get it together with a text editor. >> >> On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 8:53 AM, Hassan Schroeder < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Kemal Pince <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> > I wonder what you guys out there are using to generate the extra html >>> and >>> > css to make your web pages look great once you have the backbone of the >>> app >>> > up and running with RoR ? >>> >>> Uh, a "text editor"? :-) >> >> >> Best regards >> >> >> Peter De Berdt >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]<rubyonrails-talk%[email protected]> >> . >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<rubyonrails-talk%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en.
