Ok but I'm not using an ActiveRecord instance here. I just temporarily
made Session inherit from ActiveRecord::Base for testing purpose. And
the attr_accessors didn't override anything since the table I created
only contained an id attribute.
The idea here was to just create a normal class (not inheriting from
ActiveRecord) and to only use the validations module. The session is
not going to be stored in the database.

The original implementation of Session was:

class Session
  include ActiveModel::Validations
  attr_accessor :login, :password, :id
end


On Feb 20, 7:53 pm, Conrad Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:49 PM, Conrad Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Daniel Guettler <
> > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> Yes, this is correct and expected, the question to me is rather if it
> >> is expected behavior to assume an update operation if the object
> >> doesn't respond to :new_record?
>
> > Yes, this is expected because AR instance is either new (i.e. hasn't been
> > saved) or
> > not new (i.e. has been saved).  One can easily test this in the Rails
> > console.
>
> > -Conrad
>
> irb(main):026:0> post = Post.new
> => #<Post id: nil, title: nil, body: nil, created_at: nil, updated_at: nil>
> irb(main):027:0> post.new_record?
> => true
> irb(main):028:0> post.save
> => true
> irb(main):029:0> post.new_record?
> => false
>
> -Conrad
>
>
>
> > On Feb 20, 7:34 pm, Conrad Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Daniel Guettler
> >> > <[email protected]>wrote:
>
> >> > > So to solve this, the reason why this ends up using :method => :put is
> >> > > the following code in "apply_form_for_options!":
>
> >> > >        html_options =
> >> > >          if object.respond_to?(:new_record?) && object.new_record?
> >> > >            { :class  => dom_class(object, :new),  :id =>
> >> > > dom_id(object), :method => :post }
> >> > >          else
> >> > >            { :class  => dom_class(object, :edit), :id =>
> >> > > dom_id(object, :edit), :method => :put }
> >> > >          end
>
> >> > Yes, this is basic Rails.  PUT HTTP verb translates to an update action.
>
> >> > -Conrad
>
> >> > > which means for every object not responding to new_record? it will
> >> > > automatically set the method to PUT
> >> > > since the options are reverse merged later with the provided options
> >> > > this can be avoided by setting explicit :html => { :method => :post }
> >> > > in form_for - not sure though if this is entended behavior...
>
> >> > > If someone has some inside view comments would be appreciated...
>
> >> > > On Feb 20, 7:24 pm, Daniel Guettler <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > > > Ok what is really happening here is that for_for(Session.new, :url
> >> =>
> >> > > > login_path) includes a hidden input field setting _method to put
> >> which
> >> > > > correctly complains about a routing error since no route is defined
> >> > > > for PUT /login
> >> > > > Remaining question to me is why does form_for set the method to PUT
>
> >> > > > Session.new.new_record? => NoMethodError
> >> > > > Session.new.id => nil
>
> >> > > > On Feb 20, 7:17 pm, Daniel Guettler <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > ah the last bit of the previous message should have not been in
> >> there,
> >> > > > > but should have been in this message.
>
> >> > > > > Changing the Session class to:
>
> >> > > > > class Session < ActiveRecord::Base
> >> > > > > end
>
> >> > > > > and adding a table to the database (which is not the goal here
> >> just a
> >> > > > > workaround for figuring out what's going on here) makes the
> >> everything
> >> > > > > work correctly with:
>
> >> > > > > form_for(Session.new, :url => login_path)
>
> >> > > > > This clearly shouldn't be related but this is what I have so
> >> far...
>
> >> > > > > On Feb 20, 7:11 pm, Daniel Guettler <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > not quite the routes you are providing are not equivalent to
> >> what I
> >> > > > > > wanted to archive and they are the only routes in the routing
> >> file
> >> > > for
> >> > > > > > this test. What I want is:
>
> >> > > > > > GET /login should be resolved to session#new
> >> > > > > > POST /login should be resolved to session#create
>
> >> > > > > > possible ways of doing so are according to the action_dispatch/
> >> > > > > > routing.rb file
>
> >> > > > > > get 'login' => 'session#new'
> >> > > > > > post 'login' => 'session#create', :as => :login
>
> >> > > > > > or when using match
>
> >> > > > > > match 'login' => 'session#new', :via => :get
> >> > > > > > match 'login' => 'session#create', :via => :post
>
> >> > > > > > the above two examples are equivalent since get and post just
> >> add
> >> > > > > > the :via => :method to the options and call match
>
> >> > > > > > class Session < ActiveRecord::Base
> >> > > > > >   # include ActiveModel::Validations
>
> >> > > > > >   attr_accessor :login, :password #, :id
>
> >> > > > > > end
>
> >> > > > > > On Feb 20, 7:02 pm, Conrad Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 4:00 PM, Conrad Taylor <
> >> [email protected]>
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > > > > > > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Daniel Guettler <
> >> > > > > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >> > > > > > > >> Hi, I just ran into this ActionController::RoutingError and
> >> just
> >> > > > > > > >> wanted to check if someone can confirm this as a bug in the
> >> > > Rails 3
> >> > > > > > > >> beta gem.
>
> >> > > > > > > >> config/routes.rb contains:
>
> >> > > > > > > >>  get   'login'     => 'session#new'
> >> > > > > > > >>  post  'login'     => 'session#create',  :as => :login
>
> >> > > > > > > > Daniel, can you post the complete route?  The 'get' and
> >> 'post'
> >> > > HTTP verbs
> >> > > > > > > > should exist within a member or collection block of a
> >> resource
> >> > > block.  For
> >> > > > > > > > example,
>
> >> > > > > > > > resources :posts do
> >> > > > > > > >    collection do
> >> > > > > > > >       get :search
> >> > > > > > > >    end
> >> > > > > > > > end
>
> >> > > > > > > > or
>
> >> > > > > > > > resources :posts do
> >> > > > > > > >   get :search, :on => :collection
> >> > > > > > > > end
>
> >> > > > > > > > Note:  both of the examples are equivalent.
>
> >> > > > > > > > Next, your routes look ambiguous meaning that you could have
> >> > > easily
> >> > > > > > > > implemented this as follows:
>
> >> > > > > > > > match 'login' => "user_sessions#lnew",     :as => :login
>
> >> > > > > > > Correction:  match 'login' => "user_sessions#new",     :as =>
> >> > > :login
>
> >> > > > > > > > match 'login' => "user_sessions#destroy", :as => :logout
>
> >> > > > > > > > Lastly, your URLs will look like the following:
>
> >> > > > > > > >http://localhost:3000/logout
> >> > > > > > > >http://localhost:3000/login
>
> >> > > > > > > > Good luck,
>
> >> > > > > > > > -Conrad
>
> >> > > > > > > >> GET /login works fine:
>
> >> > > > > > > >> Started GET "/login" for 127.0.0.1 at 2010-02-20 17:45:49
> >> > > > > > > >>  SQL (0.3ms)  SET SQL_AUTO_IS_NULL=0
> >> > > > > > > >>  Processing by SessionController#new as HTML
> >> > > > > > > >> Rendered session/new.html.haml within
> >> > > layouts/application.html.haml
> >> > > > > > > >> (77.9ms)
> >> > > > > > > >> Completed in 85ms (Views: 84.1ms | ActiveRecord: 0.2ms)
> >> with 200
>
> >> > > > > > > >> However POST /login gives the following error:
>
> >> > > > > > > >> Started POST "/login" for 127.0.0.1 at 2010-02-20 17:45:58
> >> > > > > > > >>  SQL (0.3ms)  SET SQL_AUTO_IS_NULL=0
>
> >> > > > > > > >> ActionController::RoutingError (No route matches "/login"):
>
> >> > > > > > > >> rake routes returns the expected urls:
>
> >> > > > > > > >>       login POST   /login
> >> > > > > > > >> {:controller=>"session", :action=>"create"}
> >> > > > > > > >>             GET    /login
> >> > > > > > > >> {:controller=>"session", :action=>"new"}
>
> >> > > > > > > >> Thanks, Daniel
>
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