Guys, I created a quora question for this, http://www.quora.com/Is-it-more-like-1995-or-1999 so that we can continue discussing it outside the rails context
On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 7:25 AM, Aaron Mills <[email protected]>wrote: > I don't think its 2000 quite yet.. 96 sounds more like it. In 1999 I > once got offered a dot com startup job with stock options, great > benefits, etc.. sitting in a starbucks, by a stranger who had never > seen my work. I was only 17... so that must describe the level of > desperation in the marketplace for developers. > > I do think we are going to see a new tech bubble.. and it seems like > ruby is certainly the right community to get involved in. I am trying > to move my company from doing php work to rails work for that very > reason. > > Like everyone else, I am not sure who would be willing to work at that > rate when you can find ruby jobs all over the place offering a great > salary. > > On May 26, 9:54 am, Martin Wawrusch <[email protected]> wrote: > > You just made my day. You are the second person that I have spoken to > this > > week who believes it is more like 1996, and I definitely hope so. I had a > I was getting offered a dot com job for some new startup every few months. > > good exit (3 f**ing weeks to late) with my startup during the first wave > and > > we all know the difference between good and great. Really glad that I can > > experience this all over again. And btw back then I had to fend off angry > > grannies because I did not let them invest back them (imaging 80 year > olds > > screaming at you, no kidding) > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 6:20 AM, Peter Bell <[email protected]> wrote: > > > @Martin, > > > > > Quite! Although I've heard some reasoned discussion that it's more like > > > 1996. Which means there is still a little time to lay up some profits > while > > > the money is out there. > > > > > This is an amazing time to work at a funded start-up. Good cash comp, > > > interesting work, some upside in the form of options. Just make sure to > save > > > a chunk of your salary so when everything finally does implode you'll > be > > > able to ride out the down times. > > > > > And there's an easy way to tell approximately when the good times will > end. > > > It will be about six months after your Grandmother sees an infomercial > and > > > puts retirement money into a special hedge fund selling derivatives > that > > > somehow avoid the sophisticated investor laws but that are backed by a > > > secondary market in non-public stock of tech start ups. Once even your > > > granny (and apologies and exclusions to anyone whose grandma actually > *is* a > > > sophisticated wall street trader) is investing in pre-IPO startup > shares, > > > it's time to tune up your Scala and Clojure skills and take a cushy > finance > > > or insurance job for about 6-8 years until the cycle starts again. > > > > > Welcome back to 1996. And now to return to our regularly scheduled > > > technical programming :) > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Peter > > > > > On May 26, 2011, at 12:25 AM, Martin Wawrusch wrote: > > > > > The whole funding scene is nuts right now, and that trickles down to > ruby > > > developers (and wait for the need for coffeescript/node.js developers). > It > > > is going to get worse though from a hiring perspective, with the IPOs > coming > > > up and even more fresh money available. And yeah, it feels like 1999 > again - > > > one hell of a year :P > > > > > On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Peter Bell <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> Not at $28/hr. :) > > > > >> But it certainly is outside of Toronto. I've been to 5 conferences in > the > > >> last two weeks and in every one, pretty much every deck seemed to end > with a > > >> "we're hiring" slide. And most of the positions I was hearing about > were > > >> safely north of $100k/yr. At least in the major US metro markets . . . > > > > >> Seriously, this is the best labor market I've seen for developers > since > > >> 1999. It's nuts. > > > > >> I'd still like to know what LivingSocial paid for Glenn and the gang > at > > >> InfoEther . . . > > > > >> Best Wishes, > > >> Peter > > > > >> On May 26, 2011, at 12:10 AM, Alex Katebi wrote: > > > > >> <517.gif>Hurray!!!<517.gif> The recession is finally over.<517.gif> > > > > >> On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 1:02 PM, UTbibapp <[email protected]> > > >> wrote: > > >> > Hello, > > > > >> > I sincerely hope that it is appropriate to post this on this mailing > > >> > list. 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