Hmm, after further reading, I think I've they're making more progress on
it than I thought, from first impressions of the discussion. They've
had a lot of different issues to deal with, not just the
self-dependency, but they got 0.7 packaged, at least.
More detail here, particularly in the last comment:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=689207
You can see there that the debian packagers also referenced a list of
issues that the fedora wrote up:
https://github.com/mozilla/rust/wiki/Note-packaging
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Lee
On 10/01/14 18:43, Erick Tryzelaar wrote:
Lee,
Can you go into more detail on the problems that Debian is having
packaging Rust? This sounds like a classic bootstrapping problem, and
I'm sure other languages are running into it. How does Debian handle
that first build of `make` or `bash` that I assume gcc depends on?
On Fri, Jan 10, 2014 at 12:34 AM, Lee Braiden <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 10/01/14 08:16, Gaetan wrote:
I am not in favor of a customized build system. For instance
boost library use their jam build system, and i never figured how
to use it in my projects.
I push to use standard and well proved build system like cmake or
scons, at least for major components. This would give a nice
example of how to use it in any projects.
I'd agree with that on both counts: the principle of using
something standard, and the two recommendations.
CMake would probably get my vote, because it's not so much a build
tool, as a meta tool for whichever system you prefer, so it would
fit in well with various platform-specific IDEs, unusual platforms
(android, embedded, ...), etc. That said, scons is also a strong
contender, and which of the two is more open to integrating
patches and working with new languages is very much worth considering.
I think Rust will be contributing to the wider community by
lending its support (and patches) to a common, modern build
system, AND it will get something back in terms of users who
already know the build system.
On Friday, January 10, 2014, George Makrydakis wrote:
Hello,
Having a build system entirely dependent of Rust alone,
would make the entire experience in deploying the
language extremely cohere. The only counter - argument is
indeed that it would require some work to get this to
fruition. I would like to know if this has any chance of
getting priority soon enough.
Bear in mind that Debian are having a lot of issues packaging Rust
already, because it self-compiles. If the build tool also had a
Rust pre-dependency, that would be a big step backwards.
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Lee
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