On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 05:31:23PM +0200, Marc Lehmann wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 04:16:01PM +0200, Joerg Sonnenberger 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I didn't claim it requested posix only. The point is that netbsd, in
> > > typical bsd arrogance, gratitiously broke other software, even though
> > > better alternatives exist, as implemented by other systems - netbsd choose
> > > not to.
> > 
> > What better alternatives are you talking about? I should add that the
> > function names are based on gnulib.
> 
> Using the implementation namespace, or a separate header file are just two
> commonly used solutions for this kind of thing with less impact.

The functions are in a header that is an XSI extension. That header is
only included if no visiblity macro are presented OR it is explicitly
requested that the NetBSD namespace is present. Like I said,
rxvt-unicode doesn't request a pure SUS/POSIX namespace, so complaining
about extensions is wrong.

> Besides, it's a common function why? Because only netbsd has it? If that
> were true, why does it not cause problems elsewhere? Maybe because it
> isn't so common or others didn't choose the same invasive approach?

It is a common function because many algorithms use it. Heck, it is even
an instruction in many ISAs.

> I have no problem with working around this problem on netbsd. bsd header
> file and code quality *is* well known to be abysmal (with netbsd being
> better one of the less broken bsds for sure), and working around it is a
> fact of life.

So far only one person has shown a remarkable amount of arrogance in the
mails I have received. I will not comment on the rest, it would mirror
behavior I detest too much.

> But netbsd claiming that this is something that needs fixing in urxvt
> without acknowledging that it's a problem that netbsd at least could have
> avoided is unbelievably arrogant.

You are repeating yourself. It doesn't get better.

Joerg

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