Thanks for all your replies. It helps me understanding it much better.

Thanks

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 8:27 PM, Marc Lehmann <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 01:18:01PM +0530, "Jagadeesh N. Malakannavar" <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > I am using Linux Mint 9. I have started borderless urxvt. I am unable to
> > move it OR resize it.
>
> This is indeed a problem of your wm.
>
> Either it indeed doesn't support MWM hints or, more subtly, it doesn't
> announce support for it (or your urxvt was compiled without support for
> "frills").
>
> You can check for support by uisng this command:
>
>   xlsatoms -name _MOTIF_WM_INFO
>
> If you get something like this (number might vary):
>
>   576     _MOTIF_WM_INFO
>
> Then your wm officially supports mwm hints. If you get:
>
>   xlsatoms:  no atom named "_MOTIF_WM_INFO" on server ":0.0"
>
> Then it says it doesn't support motif window hints.
>
> If your wm is supposed to support mwm hints but doesn't annoucne support
> for it this is a bug in it and should be reported.
>
> (A surprising number of newer window managers fails to implement mwm hints
> properly).
>
> On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 09:19:40AM +0000, Thomas Adam <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > This does seem counter-intuitive to me, falling back to such a harsh
> > "default" -- I fail to see how not being able to set MWM-hints on the
> > client window should then render the window outside of the window
> > manager's control in this way.
>
> It's only counter-intuitive because you assume there is an alternative,
> but there really isn't. The borderless option exists to make the window
> borderless - it would neither be helpful nor intuitive to users if it
> would simply be ignored.
>
> > Most other window managers would allow you to remove their parent
> > window's border, a la FVWM:
>
> This is an alternative to achieve a similar effect, and fvwm in particular
> allows you to implement a lot of border style options as well.
>
> And indeed, it implements mwm hints.
>
> I don't think at this time and age there exists an excuse for a wm to not
> implement mwm hints, they are established, widely used and quite old.
>
> So the counter-intuitive thing is simply that in 2010 we still have wms
> that fail to implement even the most basic window management. The fix is
> to improve the wm or not to rely on such an abysmally implemented wm.
>
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