Steffen Nurpmeso <[email protected]> wrote:

> Predrag Punosevac <[email protected]> wrote:
>  |trondd <[email protected]> wrote:
>  |> Steffen Nurpmeso <[email protected]> wrote:
>  |>> trondd <[email protected]> wrote:
>  |>>|Getting a crash with s-nail 14.7.10 as well as master on OpenBSD.  When
>  |>>|changing folders, sometimes there is a segfault.
>  |>> 
>  |>> Thanks for reporting that!
>  |>> (And thanks for spending effort and using S-nail on OpenBSD; it
>  |>> seems the package has no maintainer.)
>  |> 
>  |> Thank you for taking a look.
>  |> 
>  |> There is a maintainer listed, but I haven't heard from him \
>  |> regarding updating
>  |> the package.  I have heard from a couple of other users \
>  |> who are helping to get
>  |> the port updated.
>  |
>  |The OpenBSD S-nail port maintainer is William Yodlowsky and in my
>  |experience he is very responsive guy. There is nothing wrong with
> 
> That is not my experience, Predrag.  I've sent Frantisek Holop,
> Matthias Kilian and William Yodlowsky some messages including
> a completely prepared update for v14.7.8 at the end of September
> (Matthias Kilian took the thread offlist again).
> 

Frantisek doesn't have commit privilages. Matthias Kilian is one of core
port contributors. Any S-nail update will have to be OK by him. I want
to belive that William was just very busy not rude to you. Working for
Rutgers University can get under your skin.

>  |OpenBSD port of s-nail. OpenBSD project has a matter of general
> 
> But of course it is: v14.4.5 is terribly buggy.
> I really was very disappointed that i wasn't even worth _a_
> response for preparing a complete package update commit-ready.
> 
>  |policy porting only stable peaces of software. Many people refer to such
>  |policy as very conservative. Just a casual look at your S-nail repo
>  |
>  |http://sourceforge.net/p/s-nail/code/ci/master/tree/
>  |
>  |give the impression or rapidly developing, unstable, and very volatile
>  |code base. I also got the same impression by lurking on this mailing
>  |list. 
> 
> That is not how i would say it.  :)  And what exactly do you mean
> with unstable?  Give me an example of *how* you can break the
> current S-nail codebase as a normal user -- and i'll fix it right
> away!  (With the sole exception of the well-known memory leaks
> which won't work out before the rewrite; ask for more on
> interest.)  Well and volatile... the opposite of which can be
> found on the [heirloom] branch.  Right?


I will take back my words then. As sign of my sincere appology I will
offer to test 14.7*. Let me know if you need the access to the live
OpenBSD system. Current was just tagged 5.7 beta in preparation for 1st
of May release.

> 
>  |I am sure when S-nail code stabilizes in next couple of years William
>  |will update the port.
> 
> Indeed v14.7.* is the sole story of stabilizing a codebase and
> sucking usage corner cases.  Hmmmm... at least more or less.
> Let's just see what the future brings.
> 
> --steffen

We are here for a long ride with you but some of us are more
conservative than others.

Predrag

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