--- In [email protected], "wcollins2" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ...why is there all this talk about Kaslo making a Zephyr when River 
> Raisin has a beautiful selection on its way?


Hi Wally (and others)...  

It appears that there are several different "Zephyrs" or "Zephyrlike
trains" and it is unclear, at the present, as to who is referring to
what.  Here is my interpretation:

Kaslo Shops is taking reservations for an all-Budd 8-car California
Zephyr train.  There is also a Pioneer Zephyr which is a Budd-built
train being offered by River Raisin Models.  Then there is the
Burlington Zephyr train which is the same as the Pioneer Zephyr except
with an additional coach.  And, Dave Engle is talking about River
Raisin's Zephyrlike cousin known as the Flying Yankee which ran on the
Boston & Maine and Maine Central.  Now to add some confusion, a good
friend just told me about the Denver Zephyr, the St. Louis Zephyr, the
Twin Cities Zephyr and several others, all operated by the Burlington
RR.  

River Raisin's Flying Yankee is a brass imported 3-unit train riding on
just four trucks.  The first unit is a powered engine/baggage/coach car,
the second unit is a coach, and the last unit is an
observation/lounge/coach car.  I'm sure River Raisin's web site has
photos and detailed description of all three trains being offered:
Flying Yankee, Pioneer Zephyr and the Burlington Zephyr. Click here:
http://www.riverraisinmodels.com/curproj.html#Shovelnose

Kaslo Shops Distributing's California Zephyr is an 8-car all-Budd
conventional passenger train made with cast resin body/details and a
stamped steel floor.  Totally different from the Flying Yankee and
Pioneer/Burlington Zephyr trains.  
Click here:   http://www.kasloshops.com/projects.htm

Most importantly, I do not think there is any product duplication which
is the last thing S scale needs.  Whew.....!!!

Last but not least, I have been informed of an error in my
interpretation of the comments in the Boston & Albany RR book.  It was
NOT the California Zephyr that ran to Boston on a promotional trip.  It
WAS the Pioneer Zephyr.  The book referred only to "Zephyr" and I made
an incorrect assumption (dumb!).  Sorry 'bout that.  So to correct my
error, please disregard comments about the California Zephyr running on
B&A/NYC tracks.  'Tain't so!

But it is true that the Pennsy guys could haul California Zephyr cars
out to Burlington country from Budd's plant near Philadelphia and be
prototypically correct.  So part of my PRR message wasn't too far off.
But the PRR did not haul the entire train at one time.  Only some cars
here and some cars there.  

Cheers....Ed L.




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