What is the PPSSW official mailing addres? I need it to mail something for you grain farmers.
John Armstrong ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 12:48 PM Subject: {S-Scale List} Digest Number 2852 > There are 14 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. MMT Model Railroads > From: "Bill Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 2. Promotion & Production > From: "Bill Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 3. Pines and Prairies > From: "mhrywest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 4. Re: NASG projects and numbers > From: "ctxmf74" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 5. Re: New to list > From: "Big John" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 6. custom projects and numbers? > From: "ctxmf74" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 7. Re: NASG projects and numbers > From: "Edward Loizeaux" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 8. S Scale K4 5495 > From: "Bill Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 9. Tomalco switches > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 10. Tomalco switches > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 11. Re: NASG pet project car > From: "C & P Porter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 12. NYC Drawings > From: "garydmccullah" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 13. Precision Scale Co. > From: "David Engle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 14. Re: Precision Scale Co. > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 1 > From: "Bill Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun May 14, 2006 9:22am(PDT) > Subject: MMT Model Railroads > > Hi All, > > It is good to hear Mr. Becker is getting better. Godspeed his recovery to > good health. However, the majority of the success of the Ace/Downs line > before Mr. Becker's purchase of it WAS Russ Downs. Imagine assembling, > painting and decaling a kit along the lines of Don Thompson's previous > company, Trainstuff. Now imagine doing that 50 times a week, week in and > week out. THAT is what Russ Downs did in addition to his former full time > job. Russ took hand built kit assembly further to a level of mass > production > that would be difficult for most to maintain for any length of time. > > I hope Mr. Becker proves me wrong, but I do not see the Ace/Downs line > return to the production level when Russ Downs owned it. > > Thank You, > Bill Lane > > Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in S Scale in 1957 since 1988 > > See my finished models at: > http://www.lanestrains.com > Over 100 new photos recently added > > Importing a Brass S Scale PRR X29 & G26 > http://www.pennsysmodels.com > > ALL of the production X29 have arrived as of 6-30-05 > Replacement PRR decals arrived 10-5-05 > The G26 & G26a is complete. > > PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded > (Trading is MUCH preferred) > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/billlane/PRRphotos.xls > > ***Join the PRR T&HS*** > The other members are not ALL like me! > http://www.prrths.com > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 2 > From: "Bill Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun May 14, 2006 9:24am(PDT) > Subject: Promotion & Production > > Hi All, > > The dust seems to be settling in the normal 2 day time frame. To be brief > (for once) promotion and production are 2 similar words, but in reference > to > today's NASG SHOULD have to vastly different meanings. After reading the > posts I hope that you all can see the difference here. > > Thank You, > Bill Lane > > Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in S Scale in 1957 since 1988 > > See my finished models at: > http://www.lanestrains.com > Over 100 new photos recently added > > Importing a Brass S Scale PRR X29 & G26 > http://www.pennsysmodels.com > > ALL of the production X29 have arrived as of 6-30-05 > Replacement PRR decals arrived 10-5-05 > The G26 & G26a is complete. > > PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded > (Trading is MUCH preferred) > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/billlane/PRRphotos.xls > > ***Join the PRR T&HS*** > The other members are not ALL like me! > http://www.prrths.com > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 3 > From: "mhrywest" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun May 14, 2006 9:26am(PDT) > Subject: Pines and Prairies > > Well spring time is busy up here in the frozen tundra. As I > mentioned, last weekend, Dave Hamilton and I hosted the NMRA > regional layout tour group. It was a great time for both of us, we > will be at Dave's this week where we will be able to see his Zephyr > in full DCC sound rigging. Dave says he has now knows how to do the > conversion, translating the River Raisin instructions into Minnesota > model railroader language. Kudos to River Raisin for considering > DCC in the first place, for a great power pick up system, for smooth > running and extraordinary attention to detail. Last week, the PPSSW > visited Ben Trusdale's layout. Ben had just put in another diamond > but had not had time to tune it. We could tell it was new because > you could actually hear the wheels going over it. Steve Doyle and I > would like to get some footage of the layouts around here to show at > the NASG National in August. Perhaps a late evening show with a > very drops of Powers to lubercate the conversation? Steve and I > have been giving the hills around Wataga some shape. He is on the > docket for the following Thursday and I expect that these hills will > have their first coat of texture on them and really show off when > the PPSSW guys show up. > Up here in Minnesota, we have enjoyed (?) several weeks of rather > consistant rain. That is great for the grass, trees, flowers and we > expect a bumper crop of mosquitos this year. Ahh, life in paradise. > > Ken Zieska > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 4 > From: "ctxmf74" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun May 14, 2006 10:07am(PDT) > Subject: Re: NASG projects and numbers > > --- In [email protected], "Andrew_Malette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Kaslo, a Canadian Company, is not doing the CPR Canadian Budd >> cars. Why? There was not enough demand! Imagine. This is > arguably the >> most renown Transcontinental in the world! If it were HO, they > would be >> lining up at the dealer's counters > > > Hi Andy, The HO guys can line up because there's product to buy. If > the companies made the same stuff in S scale the HO guys would be > lined up buying S scale instead. Lots of people model in HO not > because they want to, they model in HO because they can get the > necessary equipment, they would rather buy the stuff in S scale if > they could.......dave > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 5 > From: "Big John" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun May 14, 2006 1:05pm(PDT) > Subject: Re: New to list > > Fred, > > That MIGHT be a serious possibility... dredge up some more interest and I > might be partly funding just such a project; been talking one-on-one with > Jim King about co-production of some of his stuff (as well as my SAL box > car project! > > > Big John > __________________________________________ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Too much to hope that the SR gondola could be made available in S! Just > to > start the ball rolling, count me in for a six-pack. > > Fred Tolhurst > > Maryville, TN > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 6 > From: "ctxmf74" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun May 14, 2006 2:02pm(PDT) > Subject: custom projects and numbers? > > --- In [email protected], "ctxmf74" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Anyone on here make resin kits? I'm curious how many cars it > takes to make a project feasible? Westerfield in HO produces lots of > obscure models of older era equipment, I can't imagine the demand for > some of them is that high? > What would it take for someone to cast the body parts for a PFE > 57 foot mechanical reefer for instance? Just the basic resin parts > with no details needed? Models like this would make S scale a lot > more user friendly.....dave > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 7 > From: "Edward Loizeaux" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun May 14, 2006 3:36pm(PDT) > Subject: Re: NASG projects and numbers > >> The HO guys can line up because there's product to buy. If >> the companies made the same stuff in S scale the HO guys would be >> lined up buying S scale instead. Lots of people model in HO not >> because they want to, they model in HO because they can get the >> necessary equipment, they would rather buy the stuff in S scale if >> they could.......dave > > > I guess all those HO guys that want a citrus shed will soon switch to S > scale thanks to NASg's latest project. Like or not......Ed L. > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 8 > From: "Bill Lane" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun May 14, 2006 3:55pm(PDT) > Subject: S Scale K4 5495 > > Hi All, > > I have started on the long process of modernizing and converting my as > built > Omnicon PRR K4 to become K4 5495 as it was in 1956. > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/billlane/5495_1.jpg This project has been > stuck in my head for at least 10 years now. I guess now is as good of a > time > as ever to finally get it started. With any luck it will be in the model > room at next year's PRR convention. > > I am trying to simulate the most obvious features of the cast K4 frame. I > started by forming the extended cylinder boiler cradle sheet. This was a > real lesson in fab work. I had a steel mold made to cast larger lead > boiler > weights. I used the bottom half of the mold and a 1" pipe nipple to press > the piece into shape. Next, I had to make the diagonal cylinder braces. I > figured I would try the rear braces first since I am only doing them in > silhouette. None the less, these braces are the 3rd set I made as the > table > slop on my Unimat mill chomped the first 2 sets into scrap. It was very > frustrating! But no machine can replace the time consuming final file to > fit. The front cylinder braces are hugely complex castings. I have yet to > try to mill a set of them, but that is the character and spotting feature > of > the cast K4 frame. It has to be good and right! > > I wanted a realistic front draft gear with a working S Scale Kadee > coupler. > The models came with a nice draft gear casting that you threw away when a > Kadee is installed. I never understood that thinking. I used a brass Kadee > coupler I had made from lost plastic casting since the shank had to be > rather small. I then devised a small but effective centering spring > mechanism for the front coupler. > > The project so far has been OBSCENELY time consuming, but this is what I > really enjoy. Figuring out how to make a part or solve a problem keeps > everything interesting and a challenge. I probably have 40 hours in > making > these parts and changes so far. I have LOTS more to do before it can be > painted. > > The photos were taken sitting on my laptop. My photo studio is 2 miles > away > so I can't run over there every time I make a little progress. They are > being taken mostly for my reference. But I think they are passable > > Thank You, > Bill Lane > > Modeling the Mighty Pennsy in S Scale in 1957 since 1988 > > See my finished models at: > http://www.lanestrains.com > Over 100 new photos recently added > > Importing a Brass S Scale PRR X29 & G26 > http://www.pennsysmodels.com > > ALL of the production X29 have arrived as of 6-30-05 > Replacement PRR decals arrived 10-5-05 > The G26 & G26a is complete. > > PRR Builders Photos Bought, Sold & Traded > (Trading is MUCH preferred) > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/billlane/PRRphotos.xls > > ***Join the PRR T&HS*** > The other members are not ALL like me! > http://www.prrths.com > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 9 > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun May 14, 2006 4:31pm(PDT) > Subject: Tomalco switches > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 10 > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun May 14, 2006 4:40pm(PDT) > Subject: Tomalco switches > > Hi all > I am laying track and switches on my new layout, all Tomalco by the way. > I > isolated the far end of the switch but not the points end. When I tried > to > run my new AM 4-8-4 (awesome looking and running by the by) any time the > points were closed in any direction the engine would stop. This would > happen > either side of the switch. I have only run two sets of feeder wires > hooked > together at the power pack. Do both ends of the switch need to be > isolated? > If so how is power supplied to the switch itself? I only used isolated > frog > Peco switches when I was in HO so live frog switches are new to me. > Thanks for your help > Randy Johnson > Dallas Center > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 11 > From: "C & P Porter" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun May 14, 2006 5:55pm(PDT) > Subject: Re: NASG pet project car > > Roy, my friend-It is better to be criticized for trying to do something > than > to do nothing. Carry on... > > Chuck Porter > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Roy Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 1:42 PM > Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: NASG pet project car > > >> You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but your logic is flawed. >> If the NASG was to refuse to sponsor new products because of a flop >> (or debacle as you so eloquently put it), projects like the Pullmans, >> which came well after the Brick Building would not have come about. I >> pushed for the building back when S didn't have a lot going for it in >> the structures department. It was a chance to get us off the ground >> with that project and the Armco Steel Building, which has enjoyed >> modest success. However, I don't have to quote HST when I accept >> responsibility for that failure. When the NASG came out with the GN >> caboose, it was a flop, but that didn't stop us from continuing to put >> out Flyer cars each year and learn from the mistake. It would be a >> huge mistake to pull back and not take chances for the betterment of S >> because on one debacle. >> >> Bill pretty much summed up the fine line that the NASG walks when he >> mentioned that the Pullman project was OK since it didn't involve a >> completely new product. When is a project OK, and when is it not OK? >> I had lots of arguments with manufacturers who felt that the NASG was >> in direct competition with them. We tried very hard not to do that, >> but once again, you have to walk that fine line. Many of our >> manufacturers depend on whatever business S engenders for their >> livelihood and that has to be considered. I just hope that you'll be >> fair and trust the NASG leadership to do their best for S even if the >> best sometimes doesn't work out. >> >> Roy Hoffman >> >>> >>> Actually, I am somewhat personally surprised that the NASG would >>> even consider any manufacturing projects after the Roy Hoffman >>> debacle with the NASG sponsored factory kit that Dick Karnes has >>> been so diligently trying to get finished. Dick's my candidate for >>> sainthood if he is ever able to clean up that mess. >>> Ron Sebastian >>> Des Plaines >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 12 > From: "garydmccullah" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Sun May 14, 2006 6:50pm(PDT) > Subject: NYC Drawings > > S Folk, > I probably already have the NYC fans attention just from the subject > line. > Anyway, in the May/June 2006 issue of O Scale Trains, pages 62 and > 63 are drawings in S scale of an NYC coach and combine. The aricle is > a re-print of an aricle originally published in 1951. > The drawings are accurate as far as my scale ruler can tell. Any > well-stocked newstand or hobby shop will likely sell this magazine. > > Gary McCullah > Farmington, AR > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 13 > From: "David Engle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon May 15, 2006 2:43am(PDT) > Subject: Precision Scale Co. > > Is the Precision Scale Co. of Montana the same people as the Precision > Scale Co., of Woodland, Cal. in the 1980s. I remember hearing there were > two separate org's. woith essentially the same name. DJE > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message 14 > From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon May 15, 2006 6:52am(PDT) > Subject: Re: Precision Scale Co. > > The same. They moved. > Thank you > Larry Jackman > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On May 15, 2006, at 5:41 AM, David Engle wrote: > >> Is the Precision Scale Co. of Montana the same people as the >> Precision Scale Co., of Woodland, Cal. in the 1980s. I remember >> hearing there were two separate org's. woith essentially the same >> name. DJE >> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >> >> >> >> >> Yahoo! Groups Links >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! 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