Randy,
I think more information is needed to comment on this one.  I don't 
know how Tomalco turnouts are set up.  I feel like Click or Clack - 
maybe appropriate given the sounds metal wheels make through 
turnouts.  Running 2 sets of feeder wires to where (?) seems 
incomplete.  The comments that follow assume that the frog/point 
assembly is electrically unified (no insulators anywhere in the 
assembly).   

Since the frog appears to be gapped you might want to check if wheel 
flanges are causing arcing across the flangeway on the open side of 
the points.

In my experience only 1 wire should be attached to the frog/point 
assembly.  Its polarity is switched with switch direction.

For the situation you describe for an insulated unified live 
frog/point assembly (frogs gapped from adjacent rails), the wiring 
should be as follows.  Provide power to both pairs of rails past the 
frog.  Provide a single wire to the frog that changes polarity when 
the switch is thrown.  Make sure the width of the point flangeways 
are wide enough to prevent arcing through the wheels.

I provide 2 additional insulating measures.  My points are hinged 
with insulated rail joiners (this is unique in PPSSW practice).  This 
isolates the frog from the points (down side is that I rely on 
electrical contact between stock rails and points to route power to 
the points - this is minor since most points are shorter than all 
locomotive/tender wheel bases).  I also isolate the 2 points from 
each other to protect against potential shorts across the point 
flangeways (this is slightly more common, but not necessary if point 
flangeways are adequate).

Ben Trousdale


--- In [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Hi all
>   I am laying track and switches on my new layout, all Tomalco by 
the way.  I 
> isolated the far end of the switch but not the points end.  When I 
tried to 
> run my new AM 4-8-4 (awesome looking and running by the by) any 
time the 
> points were closed in any direction the engine would stop.  This 
would happen 
> either side of the switch.  I have only run two sets of feeder 
wires hooked 
> together at the power pack.  Do both ends of the switch need to be 
isolated?  
> If so how is power supplied to the switch itself?  I only used 
isolated frog 
> Peco switches when I was in HO so live frog switches are new to me.
> Thanks for your help
> Randy Johnson
> Dallas Center
>







 
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