I think the NASG database would be a good place to start.  Many don't care to 
have any infomation listed whatsoever, and I'm assuming they are collectors who 
fear theft.  NASG dues is a cheap way to locate potential targets, but those 
who do list might indicate whether prototypical operation is available, and 
list the details.  Could space be provided for such a description?  I would be 
willing to travel a considerable distance to visit and participate in operating 
a working model railroad.  As soon as my layout is up and running, I'm going to 
attempt attracting operators.  I don't think my space would accomodate more 
than 3 people, but we'll see when the time comes.
   
  Being an operator at heart, I'm not so concerned that I've limited my 
equipment choices by having a 30" minimum radius.  What concerns me more is 
that it be interesting and challenging, both to build and run.  I'm not sure 
about the "ask folks to help build it" part.  I think that would work where 
there is lots of room to shift things around and make changes, or if you know 
exactly what your design is before you start so that you can give adequit 
guidlines.  I don't think I'll have many instances where a comercial kit will 
fit unaltered. My layout is like working on a clock from the inside.  It's 
being built in a gutted 25' travel trailer with 2 levels.  I've kept it road 
worthy, so you can see the potential there, but the space is all too well 
defined and inviolable.
   
  This is like any other pastime, in that the main goal should be to have fun.  
If all we do is crab about what we can't do, or what's not available, or woe is 
us the scale is dying, who in their right mind would want to join us in our 
misery?  Would anyone like to see my partially completed track plan?  I'm open 
to suggestions on how to improve it for operating fun.  Drop me a line and I'll 
email a PDF to you.  Any operators out there?
   
  Ed Kozlowsky
  Sanford, Maine
  

Bob Werre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Ed makes a lot of sense here.  S has been said to be too 'secret' in a lot of 
ways.  I think having real operating sessions is a good way to chip away at the 
dominate scale in a subtle way.  Over the country, I know Sam Powell,  Frank 
Titman and Skip Romig have regular operating sessions.  I know that Ed Loizeaux 
and myself will be doing that shortly.  What we need is 40-50 layouts having 
operating sessions with the guys from other scales throughout the country.  
This can happen by putting a list down when you are open for a tour.  Folks who 
are interested in seeing trains run around circles will not sign up, but those 
guys interested in running with time tables, waybills etc. will sign up and 
have a good time.  I routinely operate on a HO layout and have been invited to 
others.  In the coming months I hope to have groups of guys over for the same 
thing and I assume most of the guests will be from other scales.

Actually the fellows doing live steam have had the same problem.  They spent 
all their time acquiring land, laying track and making the railroad people 
friendly.  Nobody actually had the large stuff doing anything but hauling kids 
around the landscape.  Seldom did you see boxcars being delivered and tank cars 
being picked up at industries.  

S has had a great reputation as a builder's scale, but the downside, as Ed 
Loizeaux often mentions is that time is short, we never get to the point of 
actually running a layout in prototype manner.  Indeed many of us have built 
layouts that don't feature actual operations in their designs.  I will find out 
with my layout shortly.  

Bob Werre

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