Hi Roy;

Interesting points, but since the this Yahoo group currently has 814 members 
that indicates twice as many non-scalers subscribe (and we aren't counting the 
S Scalers who are not on the internet) if your numbers are correct.

Point 2 - Many S Scalers may not be involved in NMRA, so possibly those setting 
up the tours are not aware of them. Or many scalers have collections of models 
but no finished layout....


Point 3 - The popularity of Sn3 seems to be that folks wanting to model 
Colorado 3 ft gauge find S a more practical scale (HOn3 is small enough to be 
somewhat finicky in operation, the structures and scenes in On3 are too large). 
There may be more Sn3 folks than S Scale, but they are probably Colorado Three 
Foot modelers first, who happen to work in S. While S standard gauge is not 
much larger than HO, that's hardly a convincing argument for people to switch.



Roy Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: With all due respect, I only see about 
200-400 scalers and that is 
optimistic. Here are some observations based on my experience. 

1- The best people to estimate the scale population as well as 
the overall number of people in S would be the manufacturers. It 
would be difficult for SHS to come up with a number of scalers vs non-
scalers because their cars come ready for either one. The sales 
figures of the 2-8-0 might be revealing, though. AM would be a better 
one since you have to buy scale or non-scale versions of the items 
directly. 
2- Ever notice that whenever the NMRA holds a national or 
regional convention, the layouts available for tours seldom include 
more than an occasional S standard layout? If there are 2000 scalers, 
where are the layouts? There are usually a few Sn3 layouts proving 
that there are more of them than scalers, however I believe that 
there are probably only about 1000 or so of them and not 20,000. Once 
again P-B-L or Railmaster would be the best source of numbers. I 
wonder what the circulation of Sn3 Modeler is?
3- Sn3 is concentrated on Colorado prototypes and there is 
little interest in other roads like the EBT and WP&Y. Ask BTS about 
EBT sales. I gave a clinic at the NASG 2005 convention about modeling 
the EBT in S and only a few folks bothered to show up. The small 
number of remaining prototypes i. e. DRG&W, CS guarantees that Sn3 
will only appeal to a certain number of adherents. I agree with the 
poster that wondered why S scale with all the standard gauge 
prototypes available still trails Sn3. Size is important as stated, 
but after all, S standard isn't all that  much larger that HO. 
4- Scale only magazines have a tradition of not surviving, even 
in the present day when there are supposed to be lots of new scalers. 
If there were 20,000 scalers, any scale only magazine would be a 
roaring success. MRN's circulation is around 20,000 and they cover 
all of model railroading. 
5- S at least should be proud and happy for any growth, since 
the hobby is shrinking overall. Have you noticed how slim MR is 
getting? (114 pages in the latest issue). They used to have over 200 
pages. The WGH was a valiant attempt to stop the bleeding and it 
apparently hasn't worked.

Roy Hoffman
www.royhoffman.com/pwrr





 
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