Don, Thanks for the links. I have seen the FMW Link-and-pin couplers on their webpage, but have not opted to get any. The head is almost the same size as the Grandt Line and Back Shop couplers, but the shank is way oversize for S scale in my opinion. Otherwise a perfectly viable option.
I have attempted altering On30 equipment to S standard scale, and it can be done, but the results tend to be caricatures of the prototype. The effort required to turn these into "scale" models seems to me to be more than that required to just build them from scratch. That being said, I am also planning on using B'mann On30 passenger cars as the basis for bashing a fleet of open vestibule 1885 vintage passenger cars for S standard gauge, as well as bashing some Flyer Franklin cars. As yet untested. Keep them wheels rollin! --- In [email protected], "Don & Marsha Munsey Jr" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Darrell, > > > > Have you looked at these link-and-pins designed to fit the Kadee's standard > pocket: > > > > http://home.inreach.com/jkitts/DetailPt.html#FMW4005 > > > > They are from the On3/On30 world and with the ratio, between standard gauge > and narrow gauge being about the same as between 1:48 and 1:64, I've been a > long term user of many On3/On30 items in my S/Sn42 world! > > > > Here are other examples, all based on a 7 ft by 20 ft basic flat car kit - I > like Foothill's terminology - Proto-Freelance!! BTW, that's 26 ' 8" long by > 9' 4" wide in 1:64 - "perfect" for my Sn42 folks! > > > > http://home.inreach.com/jkitts/7x20Fram.html > > > > http://home.inreach.com/jkitts/Car2.html#FMW2221 > > > > http://home.inreach.com/jkitts/Car2.html#FMW2214 > > > > Keep in touch! > > > > Donald E. Munsey, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > S/Sn42 and Hn42 - Appalachian river logging modeler > > Virginian Railway and Big Sandy & Cumberland Railroad fan > > Living in UpperRightCorner of Louisiana > > CopperSmith & Bonsai enthusiast > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Darrell Smith > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:38 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Scale Couplers for S > > > > Don, > > I am using primarily Grandt Line (plastic) and Back Shop (brass) link > and pin couplers. These are both marketed for HO, but are oversize, > and are almost true scale for S. The ones I use most frequently are > the ones that fit in a "standard" Kadee #5 coupler box. I have a > large supply of another brand of coupler box (extension) that makes a > very nice draft gear, and can have sections of the cover plate cut > away to represent retainer plates. > > I do not do a lot of "operating" and thus I do not do a lot of > coupling. But yes, it can be done with a little finesse. Just the > same kind of finesse the prototype had to use. > > Darrell Smith > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com> , "Don & > Marsha Munsey Jr" > <dmunseyjr@> wrote: > > > > Darrell, > > > > > > > > I like the idea of link-and-pins. Whose do you use, or do you make your > > own? > > > > I also guess it's a good thing I model in Sn42 which only a very few > of us > > give a care about! > > > > > > > > Donald E. Munsey, Jr. dmunseyjr@ > > > > S/Sn42 and Hn42 - Appalachian river logging modeler > > > > Virginian Railway and Big Sandy & Cumberland Railroad fan > > > > Living in UpperRightCorner of Louisiana > > > > CopperSmith & Bonsai enthusiast > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com> ] On > Behalf Of > > Darrell Smith > > Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2008 7:05 PM > > To: [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com> > > Subject: {S-Scale List} Re: Scale Couplers for S > > > > > > > > I guess it is a good thing that I am using link-and-pin couplers on > > all of my freight equipment! > > > > Darrell Smith > > > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com> > <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com> , > > "chudgr@" <chudgr@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Re: Couplers, Couplers - I'd give my life for a real good S scale co > > > Posted by: "rhettgraves" rcandamoonpie@ > > > Wed Sep 3, 2008 12:01 pm (PDT) > > > > > > >Sounds to me like we all would like to have the option of a > > scale-sized Kadee coupler! > > > > > > >But rather than argue about an S scale Utopia, why not shoot an > > email Kadee's way requesting a scale coupler > > > >for S (that might also be applicable for On30)? > > > > > > >Rhett Graves > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > Rhett, > > > I too sent an email to Kadee and here is the response I > > received. He pretty well sums it up and it's not encouraging at all! > > > > > > Gary Chudzinski > > > chudgr@ > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > >Hello again, > > > > > > >Thanks for your continued comments. What you've heard about our S > > scale couplers not being "true to > > > scale" is true to a certain extent because "all" of the dimensions > > do not > > > match the true contour dimensions of a prototypical Type E coupler. > > This is > > > because it's designed to function as a Delayed Action Magne-Matic > > coupler > > > which is quite different than the locking knuckle of the prototype. > > Dummy > > > couplers can follow most of the true contour dimensions but of > > course are > > > not functional. > > > As I mentioned before the pull face height of our #802 coupler is > > made to > > > scale. There is simply no way we can make it any more to scale than > > it is. > > > We could re-design the actual contour and make it look a bit more > > like the > > > prototype but that's about all. > > > What may have happened in S scale, as with other scales, is that for > > many > > > years S scalers had to use our HO #5 coupler on their S scale models > > then > > > when we came out with the #802 and the On3 #803 it looked too large > > since > > > everyone was use to the smaller HO #5 coupler in appearance. The #5 > > coupler > > > is about 20% overscale for HO and 17.5% underscale for S scale. But > > we are > > > only talking about .017" to .033" in actual size. > > > > > > So at this point we will not make another S scale coupler because > > our #802 > > > is as close to scale as we are going to get. Unfortunately, S scale > > > presently just does not have a big enough market share for us to > > invest in > > > another coupler that's the same scale dimensions but only has a better > > > appearing contour. So the S scale options are to use the #802 or the > > smaller > > > >HO #5 couplers. > > > > > > >Sam Clarke > > > >Kadee Quality Products > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! 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