Peter,

I'm leaving your entire post in tact for context, but my reply is aimed at O 
Gauge Railroading.  This magazine has always included all the different 
iterations of O model railroading, but it never served the O Scale community 
with any enthusiasm.  The new owners have given up the pretext of being a scale 
magazine and gone almost exclusively toward toy trains.  Enter "S Scale Trains" 
magazine.  They are uncompromisingly scale with a high quality and 
corespondingly large readership.  It is very successful, and has been around 
for a number of years.  I know of no serious scale modeler that reads O Gauge 
Railroading except for their excellent web site with list of manufacturers and 
coming events.  The S equivalent of O Gauge Railroading would be the S Gaugian, 
but with even less scale content.  Just replace the AF adds with Lionel.
 
I'm really not sure S has the numbers to support an O Scale Trains type of 
magazine.  I also doubt there is much enthusiasm for it.  There does however 
seem to be a great deal of enthusiasm for holding scale modelers captive to 
AF.  Perhaps that's the way it will always be.  I'm going to give the new 1-64 
magazine a try.  But I'm not ready to give up the multi-scale magazines just 
yet.  It doesn't need to be S Scale for me to get ideas from it.  It does have 
to be scale, and not toy trains.


S Scalingly yours,
Ed Kozlowsky
Sanford, Maine

--- On Sat, 9/13/08, Trains <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

From: Trains <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: October Model Railroader magazine.... High Rail 
Couplers!
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, September 13, 2008, 7:48 PM






OK... I am tired of all the "horse blinder" thinking.... .YOU WANT AN S 
MAGAZINE (and all the S products, repairs, kitbashing, how-too's conversions, 
adaptations, etc., etc.?) ...well it takes a huge effort and DOES require the 
input help and contributions of ALL involved with S, regardless of individual 
preferences. 

Almost all S items are useable by everyone, regardless of whether you are a 
SCALE Proto 64 adherant, a narrow gauger, or want your AF pure and use link 
couplers only!

Yes there are differences, SO WHAT?, and some things may not be, in a strict 
sense, compatible.. .mostly track specs and couplers. The rest everyone can 
use, learn about, improve their layout with, solve an electronic issue, learn 
about scenery, backdrop painting, using HO, N and O components for S and on and 
on....

The LIMITATION of prejudiced controling thinking and exclusion of one one group 
inteersts over another groups will potentialy condem a publication in S (and by 
inferrence S products).

Succsess is in quality yes, but truly is in the numbers. There are many 
examples of sucessful products that cater to ALL aspects of the S community, 
wheather originally directed toward the "Scale" side or the "AF" side.

I believe that any product for our S community should be addressing "ALL" S 
enthusiats where practical.

A publication is usually based on circulation, the bigger the better, it draws 
more readers, it draws more contributors and it draws more advertising revenue, 
which is what pays the bills.

So if a "NEW" publisher/editor/ magazine is going to make it....It should 
address the entire S community, regardless of personal leanings. If you wnat 
stuff about your interests..then you send some article, opinion, hint, how-too, 
etc., etc., to the "NEW" publication. 

A real world example is an O publication. ..that originally was called "O-Scale 
Railroading" ...the magazine was OK, but did not try to improve and reflect 
what was the "O" world overall, when new ownership took over, they immediately 
saw that a huge part of the 'O" community was not well represented and that 
they were missing huge potential revenues from advertisers and marketing of 
their own "O" products (That ALL "O" gaugers could use, wether Proto 48, narrow 
gauge or Lionel/MTH/ K-Line etc.) The somewhat ho-hum magazine has become the 
leading force in todays "O" world, and may be the main reason that all the O 
manufacturers have grown so fast and found such a "wide" audience, eager for O 
products (both "scale"-2rail and 3 rail) . The magazine is now called "O"-Gauge 
Railroading" . It has increased in size, complexity and hugely increased 
circulation. It has also become a very well layed out, graphically 
sophisticated and good looking magazine, not
 gimicky or lets try every graphic computer trick - magazine. It is a joy to 
read and chock full of all kinds of goodies, and even a web site with 
help/sales for S people!

This could be a guide/model for "OUR" S publication to come.

Personally I like the "Dispatch".. .just needs more "meat", and I loved Ed L's 
magazine (a beautifully done magazine), and always love to re-read my S-Gauge 
Heralds and even the older S-Gaugian's.

Model railroading is, for me, a joy. The 12"=1'-0" real thing is what it is all 
about for me, everything else is an approximation to some degree. I have great 
joy, when hanging around some "toy train" people watching, the loco's and cars 
banging, clattering and racing around, whistles, bells, flashing lights and the 
aroma of smoke and ozone mixing. Woweeee..is that fun, I love the sense of 
feeling reality on a well detailed fine scale model scene, I get a huge kick 
out of running and firing a 1 1/2" scale live steam engine, pulling people 
around in nature, watching the site glass, keeping water in the boiler, 
pressure up and pushing the johnson bar to it's best tractive position. Man is 
that fun. And then theres the real deisels and stema engines I have been 
on...now we are talking railroading!

So....ALL of us, get together, do it, make it happen....life is way to short to 
quibble, and for me is running out fast at 65!

S Gaugingly yours,
Dr. K. Loeb (Peter) in warm southern Oregon

S web site; www.trains-4- u.com S-Coupler (information) blog: www.s-cplrhed. 
blogspot. com

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