Bill,
I have a couple of questions for you.  The guy that saves up $100 for his hobby 
probably can't afford to go to a convention anyway, but there are some that 
just can't afford the time commitment.  You don't have to be AF to fall 
under either of these catagorys.  These folks are also locals, because they 
wouldn't spend the time or money to travel accross country.  Don't you think 
the conventions could be set up a little better as far as time management 
goes?  I mean everything closes down so everyone can do the same thing at the 
same time.  It's pretty wasteful for folks who don't want to do everything.  
Too much dead time.
 
I couldn't agree more about a fee for attendees of the vendor hall for the 
reasons you mentioned.  I also think it's short sighted not to allow the 
general public to see what's available.  Do you think not having an open day to 
shop helps convention attendance, or does it just keep folks away completely 
who would have at least gotten their feet wet?
 
There are as many ways to enjoy this hobby as there are hobbyists.  As you said 
Bill, not better ways or worse, just different.  The dealer hall is where they 
all come together, not conventions.  I think one day for nothing but dealers 
would be a move in the right direction.  Do everything else on the other days.  
I'd even do the clinics all on one day.
 
One more question.  What's the relavence of "By the time the doors open to the 
public I am probably busted and not buying anyway"?  I assume convention 
attendees would not be charged admission to the dealer hall in any event.
 
Ed Kozlowsky
Sanford, Maine  

--- On Mon, 12/29/08, Bill Lane <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Bill Lane <[email protected]>
Subject: {S-Scale List} let em in for free?
To: "S Scale List" <[email protected]>
Date: Monday, December 29, 2008, 6:59 AM






Hi All,

I agree that it is somewhat rare for the NASG convention to have a sale open
to the public day. Those that do are the true marketeers that want to boost
the bottom line. But once the "should we or should we not" decision has been
made, does anyone here really believe that a $2-6.00 door fee will keep a
possible newbie from attending? I most definitely do not...

>From my limited experience selling for Downs Model Railroad in the pre
Pennsy S Models days, I can tell you that the $5.00 at the door guy is NOT
and probably never will be a convention attendee. He is a train BUYER. There
is a very big difference here. He is most likely an American Flyer
connoisseur. He shows up at the door with his hard earned saved $100.00. He
pays his $5.00 at the door and walks out less then an hour later with his
new $95.00 bounty of new (to him) trains without socially talking to others
in the selling room. I have seen this happen MANY times. This even applies
to train show guys as I have seen at the old Greenberg train shows. They
come, they see, they buy, they leave. They are a different animal then most
of us here. Not better or worse, just different.

The convention planners that have this open sale day are smart because us
regular convention attendees have hopefully already covered all the expenses
related to the convention. The $5.00 a head is just stuffing the cash
register.... . It really does not matter to me. I am there for the full ride.
By the time the doors open to the public I am probably busted and not buying
anyway.

I mostly think the small door fee is a good thing. I am not saying it would
stop someone if they have thievery on their mind, but it would stop someone
with NO interest from wandering in. I consider it to be an "interest
filter". 

Thank You,
Bill Lane

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