Yep, I have a couple of them lying around somewhere gathering dust at my 
shop--I rarely have to use them, since I use cabinet assembly screws.  

Charles Weston

--- On Sat, 8/28/10, Carey Probst <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Carey Probst <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Power Tools
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 8:38 AM







 



  


    
      
      
        If you can find them they actually make a combination bit that does 

both the clearance and pilot holes and has a countersink head.



I have a couple lying around, probably from Home Depot or Lowes, or 

possibly a real hardware store.



Carey



Carey Probst



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On 8/28/2010 9:29 AM, Charles Weston wrote:

>

> No they don't clear chips as they penetrate.  They are much less 

> likely to split the wood or strip out compared to drywall screws.  

> Plus they have a smooth shank which allows them to slip and draw the 

> work together.  Drywall screws are threaded all the way up and will 

> typically lock up and strip when joining two pieces of wood.  They 

> work in drywall because the technique used for attaching drywall with 

> a drywall "screwgun" pushes it up against the studs or joists and the 

> threads can tear through the soft paper and gypsum.

>

> If you have your heart set on drilling holes for wood applications, 

> then you really need to drill a pilot hole for the threads and a 

> clearance hole in the part you are attaching, and of course, the holes 

> need to be aligned.  So two different size holes to drill before you 

> even touch the screw.  BTW, sheet metal screws are a much better 

> choice than drywall screws if you are going to this much trouble, 

> because drywall screws are hard and brittle and the easily snap.

>

> Also, if you are worried about splitting the wood, use a panhead screw 

> rather than a flat or bugle (drywall) head.  The latter tend to act 

> like wedges.

>

> Charles Weston

>

> --- On Fri, 8/27/10, Jim and Cheryl Martin <[email protected] 

> <mailto:farnhamhouse%40ymail.com>> wrote:

>

> From: Jim and Cheryl Martin <[email protected] 

> <mailto:farnhamhouse%40ymail.com>>

> Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Power Tools

> To: [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>

> Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 11:10 PM

>

>

>

> Hi Charles:

>

>

>

> I'm always up for new tricks, but wary of spliting wood, especially 

> near the ends of boards, even with the thin-shanked drywall screws.  

> Do the auger point screws clear the material as they penetrate the wood?

>

>

>

> Jim

>

> --- On Sat, 8/28/10, Charles Weston <[email protected] 

> <mailto:rotary-oy%40sbcglobal.net>> wrote:

>

> From: Charles Weston <[email protected] 

> <mailto:rotary-oy%40sbcglobal.net>>

>

> Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Power Tools

>

> To: [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>

>

> Received: Saturday, August 28, 2010, 3:51 AM

>

>

>

> Use a cordless drill and auger point screws--no switching of bit required.

>

> Charles Weston

>

> --- On Fri, 8/27/10, David Heine <[email protected] 

> <mailto:davesn3%40rcn.com>> wrote:

>

> From: David Heine <[email protected] <mailto:davesn3%40rcn.com>>

>

> Subject: RE: {S-Scale List} Power Tools

>

> To: [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>

>

> Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 10:02 PM

>

>

>

> The quick-connect type drills, etc. do save time, but using two 

> drills/drivers is faster. Actually for driving screws in benchwork 

> type applications, I normally use a cordless impact driver, which I 

> think works better in most applications. And the drill bit is in a 

> cordless drill. I don't use corded drills that much anymore; it has to 

> be some heavy extensive drilling which usually means using my 1/2" 

> hammer drill.

>

> Remember, tools are like trains, you can't have too many.

>

> Dave Heine

>

> Easton, PA

>

> -----Original Message-----

>

> From: [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com> 

> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>] On 

> Behalf Of Jim and Cheryl Martin

>

> Sent: Friday, August 27, 2010 6:14 PM

>

> To: [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>

>

> Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Power Tools

>

> I can't find the name for the device on the box, but one of the nicest 

> things I've done for myself is an accessory drill chuck/bit driver for 

> my power drill. Attach the hand-tightened chuck into your existing 

> drill chuck, and use it for drilling your pilot holes. The real party 

> piece is a hollow bit driver that fits over the top of the additional 

> chuck and drill bit, using a ball-indent to hold it in place. Snapping 

> the bit driver on and off is a lot faster than alternating between two 

> separate drills. Great for benchwork when you're alternating back and 

> forth between drilling pilot holes and driving screws.

>

> Hope this description isn't too confusing.

>

> Jim

>

> --- On Thu, 8/26/10, Paul Vaughn <[email protected] 

> <mailto:pv_sn3%40yahoo.com>> wrote:

>

> From: Paul Vaughn <[email protected] <mailto:pv_sn3%40yahoo.com>>

>

> Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Power Tools

>

> To: [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>

>

> Received: Thursday, August 26, 2010, 2:43 AM

>

> The handiest power tool for doing screws is a 3/8 reversable drill 

> motor with screwdriver bits.

>

> Paul

>

> --- On Wed, 8/25/10, Andrew_Malette <[email protected] 

> <mailto:andym%40mlwservices.ca>> wrote:

>

> From: Andrew_Malette <[email protected] 

> <mailto:andym%40mlwservices.ca>>

>

> Subject: {S-Scale List} Power Tools

>

> To: [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>

>

> Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 5:30 PM

>

> Bob Werre wrote...

>

> "During the early construction, our eldest member came over

>

> to help. He brought over sheet rock screws and screw gun while I

>

> continured with drilling pilot holes, using soap and then hand screwing

>

> everything with #8 or #10 screws. I recommend any type of power

>

> equipment you can afford.

>

> Bob Werre

>

> BobWphoto.com"

>

> Ah yes, the electric screwdriver. Man's greatest invention since beer.

>

> Next is the roofing nailer. Second last roof I did, I used one. Last 

> one I

>

> did was on the cottage up north, way smaller. The fore arm hurt for a

>

> couple of days.

>

> I use anything power that I can beg and borrow when I am building 

> anything,

>

> especially benchwork. I do have a healthy fear of power tools, even model

>

> table saws and Dremel motor tools. Just a split second of mistiming 

> and my

>

> piano playing/modelling days are over.

>

> cheers, eh?

>

> Andy Malette

>

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