Bill,

I somewhat understand your dilemna.  Before I got involved in the S Scale 
Workshop, trains with no scenery were alright with me.  In fact, I thought 
scenery was a distraction.  

I was wrong and my opinions have changed.

My first module was only a 2 foot by 4 foot endevour with a single track 
going down the middle on a 'Tee' beam with nothing on either side.  I used 
the famous Simon Parent code 83 tie plates which took their share of time.  
At any rate, I was under the gun to get it ready for a show the next day and 
had no time to add anything else.  So to make sure there would be no locos 
on the floor, we simply stapled some plastic garbage bags between the sides 
of the module and the edge of the beam that the track was on.  At least half 
of the modules were at some state of incompleteness but mine stood out.  
When someone asked what the garbage bags represented, I quipped "It's a 
swamp!"

It kind of stuck and I eventually built up swamp scenery with a stone 
causeway.  It was an eye opener for me.  When I placed my locos on it, they 
came alive especially when a backdrop was placed behind.  This completely 
changed my outlook.  Any RR I do will have to have scenery on it to provide 
a good stage for my equiment.

I have four other modules that I connect together that form the Brewery, its 
lead track and tail track.  One astute observer noted that the Brewery was 
in fact a John Allen Timesaver with a slight modification.  I checked and he 
was right.  The modules are senicked but not detailed enough yet.  I do like 
to operate it but it does leave me kind of dry after a while.  

I know that you believe that just running trains around in a loop will 
satisfy your needs but having listened to you about your knowledge of the 
PRR and the LIRR, I believe that you may eventually tire of that and find 
that you actually want to operate prototypically.  If you don't take that 
into your design considerations, you may find that your ovals eventually 
appear to become a waste of time and money spent.

As far as your 'small' room goes, you should invest $20 in the Tony Koester 
book about multi level RR and the book from Kalmbach about How to Build More 
Layout in Less Space.  I read these cover to cover.  If you are worried 
about your walls, a 'mushroom' layout in the centre might work.

My room is 22' x 18'.  Somewhat smaller than yours but I have managed to 
design an around the wall shelf layout that I plan to build that will use a 
helix with a 50" radius.  This way I can do the CNR branch line from Owen 
Sound -> Park Head -> Wiarton in 1956 complete with wye and staging yard in 
another room.  One thing they emphasize in those books that a scenicked  
shelf can look really great at only 8 to 10 inches wide.  That's less 
material being used in every area.

Anyway, before you spike again or buy more materials, you may want to 
consider what I have said.  Then again, having seen you with your Flyer at 
an early age, you may want to keep your loop ideas to remain in touch with 
your..."INNER FLYER" and just watch those brass babies go round and round as 
fast as they can;->

cheers, eh?
 

Andy Malette



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