Bill,  don't you just love it when everybody takes a stab at designing 
your layout?  Actually I wish I would have had more help when I started 
on mine.  What Andy says is correct and if I'm following his description 
correctly, we used his little module for the cover of a past Dispatch 
Membership directory. 

You folks with basements have a big financial advantage over us 
basemently challenged areas.  The second story trainroom above my garage 
was "scratchbuilt" at a decent price and at a time when I was young 
enough to build it.  Try lifting a 20' 2 x 12 into position by your 
lonesome!  I would estimate having a contractor build that addition 
would be in the 40+K region today.

I have done some basement work on my family home and know about some of 
the problems with walls that leak and start getting the middle age 
belly!  I might suggest that a false wall from the ceiling about half 
way down to the floor might be a way of keeping access to the walls.  I 
would insist however on finishing the ceiling.  If not dust, will foul 
the layout surface forever.  Also you'll never be happy with large steam 
rounding the corners on a 'inside' style layout.  Around the wall will 
hide the loco-tender connection area better. 

As I recall Jack Sudimack's layout wasn't that large but did a lot with 
multi levels.  A couple of Sn3 layouts in the Denver area were also 
built fairly vertical because of limited square footage.  These guys 
think in cubic feet!

Bob Werre
BobWphoto.com


>  
>
> Bill,
>
> I somewhat understand your dilemna. Before I got involved in the S Scale
> Workshop, trains with no scenery were alright with me. In fact, I thought
> scenery was a distraction.
>
> I was wrong and my opinions have changed.
>
> My first module was only a 2 foot by 4 foot endevour with a single track
> going down the middle on a 'Tee' beam with nothing on either side. I used
> the famous Simon Parent code 83 tie plates which took their share of 
> time.
> At any rate, I was under the gun to get it ready for a show the next 
> day and
> had no time to add anything else. So to make sure there would be no locos
> on the floor, we simply stapled some plastic garbage bags between the 
> sides
> of the module and the edge of the beam that the track was on. At least 
> half
> of the modules were at some state of incompleteness but mine stood out.
> When someone asked what the garbage bags represented, I quipped "It's a
> swamp!"
>
> It kind of stuck and I eventually built up swamp scenery with a stone
> causeway. It was an eye opener for me. When I placed my locos on it, they
> came alive especially when a backdrop was placed behind. This completely
> changed my outlook. Any RR I do will have to have scenery on it to 
> provide
> a good stage for my equiment.
>
> I have four other modules that I connect together that form the 
> Brewery, its
> lea
> cheers, eh?
>
>
> Andy Malette
>
> 




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