Pieter:

No problem - at least you're getting his feet wet! A good many of us who were 
too young to enjoy the best of times with brand new mid-50's American Flyer 
trains (not me - I'm not THAT young!) got started with HO, most likely, anyway. 
I even went through the HO phase, myself.

ILLINOIS MIDLAND should have reached out to those who already had some modeling 
experience, would like to try S but have always heard/considered that it was a 
"craftsman" scale beyond their talents

I designed ILLINOIS MIDLAND to dispel that theory and demonstrate that building 
a layout for realistic operation with off-the-shelf components in S is not only 
possible, but practical.

Bob Nicholson  ______________________________________

--- In [email protected], Pieter Roos <pieter_r...@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Bob;
> 
> I may have a different view from some (most?) here.
> 
> Two years ago when my Grandson wanted a train, I got him a Bachmann Thomas HO 
> set. He also liked Chessie System and found an HO Athearn locomotive and some 
> cars at a train show.
> 
> Why didn't I support S and buy him a set in the scale I model in? I figure it 
> is more important that he see things he can use in local shops or train 
> shows. The nostalgic idea of "reading the American Flyer catalog to pick the 
> new train items you want for Christmas this year" is a form of delayed 
> gratification so foreign to recent generations that I suspect it would keep 
> many kids from developing any sustained interest in model trains. He already 
> has many other interests; Transformers seem to have died off in favor of Lego 
> Star Wars and now Halo; so competition is already stiff! 
> 
> Having a kids interested in trains IN GENERAL is far more important than 
> having them interested in S in particular. They can settle on a scale later, 
> once (if) they develop and adult interest in the hobby.
> 
> 
> Pieter E. Roos
> 
> 
> --- On Tue, 10/19/10, Bob Werre <b...@...> wrote:
> 
> > From: Bob Werre <b...@...>
> > Peter and All,
> > 
> > Yes, this show was designed to bring in masses of people to
> > pay for that 
> > large a space--I was told they needed 10K to break
> > even.  So tons of 
> > little kids similar to the mall shows were expected. 
> > However, most of 
> > those kids will be into something else next week. 
> > This is especially 
> > true down here in the basement-impaired South. where the
> > parents will 
> > find  it difficult to find space for any kind of
> > layout. 
> > 
> > The Division 8 of the NMRA has a yearly scholarship for a
> > youth 
> > member--they haven't been able to find one yet!  I'm
> > President of the 
> > San Jacinto model RR club, probably the largest in the
> > metro area.  I 
> > think we have one member under 40.  I put out a sheet
> > inviting the 
> > teenage kids to join us, that was given out at the show to
> > a few kids.  
> > The best age to get the kids into modeling is from about 10
> > to 17, after 
> > 17 most are into other interests, but if the hook is still
> > there, they 
> > will come back in their late 20's.  The days of Lionel
> > and Gilbert 
> > running TV ads to hook the kids is long gone.  I
> > remember Gilbert 
> > sponsoring "Mr. Ed the Talking Horse" bi-weekly with
> > Studebaker.  Funny 
> > that both those companies faded into history about the same
> > time.
> > 
> > Regarding, having S on site... that's something I've been
> > complaining 
> > about for years.  However, we've had two regional
> > part-time dealers 
> > (Pufferbelly from Waco and Tom Henderson formally of Austin
> > (SideTracks 
> > in Ouray now) appear with both AM and SHS plus vintage AF
> > items, but not 
> > really train sets.  I don't think either one did that
> > well at the shows 
> > and with much of their revenue coming from the AF collector
> > crowd.  Tom 
> > has left for the high mountains and I haven't seen
> > Pufferbelly in 
> > several years.  At this particular show I didn't see
> > but two S items at 
> > all--one of the Casey Jones engines and a NH Pacific. 
> > I bet there was 
> > over 100,000 HO or N cars on display (you can stash
> > hundreds of N items 
> > in those plastic bins). 
> > 
> > I had proposed (to anybody who would listen) that the
> > suppliers send 
> > down items to the various clubs who display in areas
> > without a reliable 
> > dealer.  The club then would become a temporary dealer
> > to sell those 
> > items.  Of course unsold items would then go on to the
> > next show with 
> > sold items replaced.  The club could receive some of
> > the profits  and 
> > the supplier would sell to a new crowd without having to
> > actually be on 
> > site.  With the exception of liability and shipping
> > costs, it would be a 
> > win-win situation. 
> > 
> > Bob Werre
> > BobWphoto.com
> >
>




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