Just for clarification, are you suggesting that SP composite side GS cars were 
found all over the US or rather that GS drop-bottoms were
found all over the US?  The latter I have no doubts about; the former I am a 
little more wary of.  What are the high-value bulk ladings that
would have justified transcontinental shipping?
As I noted in responding to Dave Branum's mention that few non-regional coal 
hoppers showed up on the west coast until late, it doesn't make a lot of sense 
to ship a carload of coal (or sugar beets) across the country.

Jace Kahn

General Manager 
Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.




> > > they seem to be a prototype which didn't 
> > > usually get far from the west coast.
> > > Jace Kahn
> 
> 
> Someone once said that communication is the cause of 80% of the world's 
> problems.  That claim must have been true because our web site clearly states 
> the following:
> 
> "The GS series of drop-bottom gondola cars saw service all over the nation 
> from the late 1940s through the 1980s. Wood-planked extension sides were 
> added to some gondolas for sugar beet service, described in detail here: 
> www.pwrr.org/prototype/sugarbeet/index.html"
> 
> I believe it was Bob Hogan who said he has photos of this car with a load of 
> scrap metal in the Atlanta, GA area.  Another person, not on this list, has 
> photos of this car in the Chicago area.  There are published photos of this 
> car in New England.  It carred granular loads like sand, gravel, etc. which 
> could easily be unloaded via the trap doors in the floor.  It also carried 
> pipes, logs, scrap metal, sugar beets (without the extension sides), and who 
> knows what else.  
> 
> I do need to state that this car was used all over the USA for many different 
> kinds of loads just to eliminate any misunderstanding.  Research will show 
> this and there is photographinc evidence according to many folks we have 
> spoken with.  No, I cannot steer you to a specific page in a particular book. 
>  But others can.
> 
> All of that aside, Jace is correct that this is a unique car with a special 
> personality.  The trap doors have linkage and rods and handles etc. with 
> which to operate them.  Quite different from an ordinary mundane gondola.  
> The trap doors themselves are an interesting feature -- full of ribs, hinges, 
> etc.  Look at the photos on the web site and you will see.
> 
> Click here in case you have not yet done so:
> 
> http://www.x2011west.org/nasg.html#convcars
> 
> It is true that the sugar beet car saw service mainly in the central valley 
> of California where the beet fields were located.  No doubt about that.  
> 
> But y'know....the Mighty NYC will have two sugar beet cars rolling on its 
> tracks next year because it is a very unusual car which will attract 
> attention.  Yes, it is a bit out of place, but maybe the NYC leased a couple 
> of cars to try them out for a while.  Sort of imagineering a reasonable 
> excuse for something I just wanted.  That's what I like about this hobby -- 
> the degree of authenticity is whatever you want it to be.  I am admittedly a 
> loose kinda guy.  Especially when I am trying to sell a bunch of cars.
> 
> Cheers....Ed L.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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