Hi All,

Pieter, I know that this has very little to do with S scale and that you 
wanted the thread ended but I thought I'd share anyway.

I was very fortunate to work in North York Hobbies part-time during my 
University years, 1971 - 1975, for one of my jobs.  I played the piano in 
studios in my other off times.  

In 1978, when I lost my teaching job because of teacher surplus, I worked at 
George's Trains.  

These two were THE model train suppliers of Toronto from 1960 - 1990.  
George's is still around but had to move to Markham last year because city 
hall upped their taxes so much.

My experience was that there was only Flyer offered at George's.  In fact 
both stores told me that there were no S scale manufacturers at all.  This 
could have been ignorance or the fact that S was not available from Walthers 
where both shops got their merchandise from.  Probably the latter.

Interestingly, when I was there, George's had a Flyer CNR reefer which I was 
mildly interested in.  I guess I should have bought it as the last two I saw 
on EBay went for over $200 USD!

As for my working experience in these places, Bob Werre got it right.  
Nothing much happened during the week unless it was after 4:30 pm.  Fridays 
and Saturdays were panic time.  North York was open on Thursdays until 9.  
We would get the odd individual who would come in at 8:55 and decide to read 
at the magazine rack.  We devised various ways to discourage these 
individuals.  In those days, we could smoke in the shop;->

George's closed on Fridays at 8:30 and Saturdays at 4:30.  Since North York 
was open until 9:00 on Friday and 6:00 on Saturday, we would get an influx 
at the last minute on both days.

I never saw any S scale in those days, only Flyer at George's.

When I first got into S scale, in 2001, George's had a lot of scale stuff 
in.  There were Mainline kits, Kinsman kits and lots of SHS.  Apparently an 
S scale basement dealer decided to get out and sold his lot to George's.  It 
was beauty because I got to negotiate some pretty good deals for my HO brass 
since I was the only S scaler around who was interested.  Unfortunately, the 
Flyer CNR reefer was long gone:-<  It would have been neat as a memento from 
my 1978 experience.

The owner of North York retired about 10 years ago and the business ended.

I still go into George's occasionally to show them my S scale stuff and 
deliver whatever HO products I produce that they need.  What is really neat 
is that anything S scale that comes in, they save for me and usually let me 
have at an offer I can't refuse.  The last thing I got was from their 
manager. It was a NWSL Jones and Lauglin tank car.  It was painted with 
really thick silver enamel and varnish for weathering.  The paint gelled 
when I tried to remove it at first.  Eventually, I did succeed. 

Since Bill Lane told us all that this car only ran about 8 miles between 
factories in PA, it will become a beer car!  Sorry it's already been 
repainted.  Bill, if you really need to know what I got it for, I will tell 
you offlist.

Another hobby shop in Mississauga, called Credit Valley, is willing to 
showcase my S scale kits and take orders.  I will probably take them up on 
that offer.
  
When I was working at these shops, I was in HO and the HO Canadian steam 
brass was coming out in droves from Van Hobbies.  It was like being a 'kid 
in a candy store'.  I really appreciate the time that I worked at those 
places and really do try to support George's and Credit Valley for paint, 
scenic materials and anything else I need. 


cheers,


Andy Malette



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