I'm done trying to make point about the RMC feature (several times over). Like dave, my first real S scale buy was one of Don's PS-2's (two of them, actually) at a train show, although I had seen some of the newer S scale at other train shows elsewhere, including a few brass diesels that did tempt me; going back through older issues of both S Guagian and Bill Wade's periodical (and quite well-done it was, too) it appears that was the first SHS product as such.
As I've tried to say in previous posts almost as long as I've been on the list, I don't NEED S scale; I have a lifetime supply of O scale, most of it top-quality stuff, both bought and made (if I do say so myself about the latter). I never owned any AF; what we could afford (and had to share with my brother) was an entry-level Lionel bought on sale at the Western Auto. I was aware of AF, surely, but that was not an option. Then, about age thirteen, I bought my first HO scale freight car kit and never looked back, amassing a large quantity of HO over the next twenty-five years until I went to O scale, where I've been the past more than thirty years. My only interest in AF is the challenge to convert a few cars to scale, and the total of that impulse will probably be well under 10% of my rolling stock. So if I seem critical of the more inclusive approach it is because I really do know what I want from S scale. And although I've had plenty of idiot responses about Lionel when I visit a new hobby shop and ask about O scale, full-scale O has been around so long that such connections are far rarer than for S scale. bob's project sounds admirable; I just don't know what more anyone could have done than that cooperative effort between him and most of the S scale manufacturers. Perhaps there really IS nothing that will change the calculus in S scale. Jace Kahn General Manager Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co. > Since Pieter has asked the RMC thread be closed, I will say one thing > about a scale effort that I was involved in that sort of works with > Rusty question. It was the late 90's I guess, I produced a brochure for > the Chicago based trade show that contained all scale equipment--it was > supposed to be a cooperative effort. It followed a time theme (very > much like the This is S Brochure effort by the NASG but without any > hi-rail) The front cover showed many closeups of products from all the > people who sent me product. The inside contained three layout shots of > possible situations Steam, Early Diesel, and 'as Modern as S gets'. I > think we ran about 8,000 copies. I have a handful left. I donated > my time but was reimbursed for expenses. I had a professional designer > put it together and Ron Sebastian wrote the copy. > > As I recall we had lots of Southwind items, some River Raisin, some > Overland SD's, & whatever SHS had (switcher and a few cars) at that > time. BTS was pushing his magazine. Although American Models didn't > contribute financially they did supply product and I did include a fair > amount of my own PRS cars. I might have missed some but that's the > bulk. Unfortunately, as I recall most of the contributors where unhappy > about something or another. > > Bob Werre > PhotoTraxx.com > > > > Then there were efforts early on to try and get some type of > > organizational S group going before the NASG. At that time NMRA seemed > > to be a bigger influence in the modeling group at large but I have > > always felt like it struggled between O and HO. I remember when I > > asked around about S in the late 60's. I was pretty much just looked > > over to the guy behind me. Considering how I am i can understand why > > some one would want to do that though. > > > > J. Rustermier > > > > --- In [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>, > > Bill Roberts <bill@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Posted by: "Rusty" thebrassbasher@... thebrassbasher > > > > Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:37 am (PDT) > > > > > > > > Do any of you remember just what and who this orignation was. It > > is in a logo printed on the upper left corner of Midgauge Models boxes > > in blue. > > > > > > Associated S Gauge Manufacturers appears to have been a short-lived > > trade group from the late 1940s. > > > > > > I found full-page ads in several 1948 issues of Model Railroader > > magazine that featured small ads from S scale manufacturers. They were > > very much like the ads that appear today on the inside front cover of > > Railroad Model Craftsman magazine. > > > > > > One of the ads listed the Associated S Gauge Manufacturers as a part > > of the heading. It had an address at 20 N. Wacker Drive in Chicago. > > The only supplier with a Chicago address was S-pikes Equipment Co. at > > 444 Civic Opera Bldg. Perhaps there was a connection between the two. > > > > > > I skimmed the 1949 issues and found only one full-page ad early in > > the year. In later issues ads from S suppliers appeared throughout the > > magazine. Apparently the Associated S Gauge Manufacturers didn't last > > very long. > > > -- > > > Bill Roberts > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
