I would not admit knowing that useless guy.  The family has personaly known 7 
presidents starting with Washington.  We never made any money out of it tho.
  JA 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael & Linda Marmer 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, June 24, 2011 1:19 PM
  Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} C&O Canal (train related)


    

  John,

  I was only kidding.

  Okay, you knew Calvin Coolidge then. O!

  Mike
  From: John 
  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:42 PM
  To: [email protected] 
  Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} C&O Canal (train related)

  I feel old enough JA
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael & Linda Marmer 
  To: mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:30 PM
  Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} C&O Canal (train related)

  John,

  That is great to hear you heard that statement before.

  I think you knew Van Buren?

  Just kidding.

  Mike

  From: John 
  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:10 PM
  To: mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com 
  Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} C&O Canal (train related)

  Am familiar with that statement. Van Buren liked SCALE rights of way. Not HI 
RAIL.

  One of my ancestors built Van Burens house. I think he got paid.

  John Armstrong
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael & Linda Marmer 
  To: mailto:toytrains%40yahoogroups.com ; mailto:S-Trains%40yahoogroups.com ; 
mailto:s-scale%40yahoogroups.com ; Steve Conard ; John Picur 
  Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:49 PM
  Subject: {S-Scale List} C&O Canal (train related)

  I just got my latest C&O Canal newsletter and this little story appeared in 
the newsletter.

  I am going to type it out.

  On Jan. 1, 1829, Governor of New York Martin Van Buren wrote this to 
President Jackson: “The canal system of this country is being threatened by the 
spread of a new form of transportation known as “railroads”. As you may well 
know, railroad carriages are pulled at the enormous speed of 15 miles per hour 
by engines, which, in addition to endangering life and limb of passengers, roar 
and snort their way through the countryside. the Almighty certainly never 
intended that people should travel at such a breakneck speed”. Though 
oft-quoted, the letter I thought by many to be apocryphal. ( not authenticated)
  ----------------------------------------------------------
  The above is sort of silly and funny, as the railroads did over come the 
canals in the end.

  Many of you know I am a big fan of the C&O canal, as I have hiked all 184 
miles of it in the late 60s with the Boy Scouts and Linda and I bike on it just 
about every weekend from April to November.

  The speed limit on the canal for boats was 4 mph, as any faster, the ripples 
from the boats would damage the clay covered canal beds.

  I have read that RR employee’s would throw rocks to spook the mules pulling 
the boats, as the boats carrying goods, mostly coal was competition.

  I have read a book last year called Railroad Triumph which states that the 
RRs where coming but due to many canals being built in the early 1800s, there 
was a need for faster movement of goods and people, so the canals actually got 
RR design going sooner.

  The Canal went into bankruptcy in the 1880s as the B&O RR purchased the 
canal. The Canal closed in 1924. The B&O RR went bankrupt in 1936, as the 
government got the canal then. It was made into a national park in 1971.

  I am reading a book written on the C&O Canal, and President Jackson actually 
cut off all US Government funding for the building of this canal. He saw no 
need for it.

  Mike Marmer

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