Or, as I pointed out, perhaps Lionel will offer one; they have done an 
excellent full-scale 40' in O scale--better than the Weaver.  They didn't do a 
50', probably because Atlas did.

Jace Kahn

General Manager 
Ceres & Canisteo RR Co./Champlain County Traction Co.












group:what we really ned is a 40' and a 50' ps-1, if anyone knows anybody at 
mth, but a bug in their earmel perry
On Feb 29, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Pieter Roos wrote:         It is also worth noting 
that MTH had a hand in resolving the UP fiasco, (which, BTW, appeared to 
include UP claiming rights to IP which they did not have, such as heralds of 
railroads that never became part of UP).

Overall, my position is to be happy for the new products from Lionel (well, not 
so much the transparent 0-6-0 and caboose...), and wait and see on what, if 
anything, comes from MTH. 

I would tend to think that the new product rather than re-hashed old Flyer 
models from Lionel is driving any MTH interest. If their Lionel sees money in 
our market, MTH most likely figures it's worth looking into and maybe dipping a 
toe to test the water.

Pieter E. Roos

--- On Wed, 2/29/12, Bob Werre <[email protected]> wrote:

     Many of the problems and lawsuits that have happened come from two    
sources, that being intellectual property like software    codes/circuits and 
the different cultures that are designing much of    the stuff we buy.  Add in 
some long ago ruffled feathers from past    dealings and you have big potential 
problem.
    
    I think over the years Lionel, K-Line, MTH, UP and a couple of    others 
have been paying lawyers to push their side.  I today's world    all the easy 
problems have been solved, so now we are dealing with    situations that often 
don't have clear answers.  We all remember    when the UP got involved with 
others using their logos and slogans.     Most of us agree the UP had every 
right to guard their property but    they also seemed to be very heavy-handed 
in doing so.  Now you add    the China factor of ignoring patents and 
copyrights you can have    major problems.  Sometimes the importer isn't even 
aware of the what    was actually happening or conveniently ignores the 
obvious.  
    
    Maybe those well-paid lawyers are buying trains with their cut of    the 
settlement money.
    
    Bob Werre
    
                    









    
    






                                          

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