John, you certainly have a right to express your opinions. But I sure wish you would keep them more positive about S scale and not promote HO on this forum that is intended to be for us S folks. By the way, I hope to meet you at the Savannah RPM. I will be there to represent S scale though possibly without any models. - Earl Henry In a message dated 3/3/2012 3:42:44 A.M. Central Standard Time, [email protected] writes:
Alan, come back and let me know in about 10 or 15 years (at best) how well that is working for you and the aging AF support base for S scale. Even Lionel will... no, SHOULD be able to get the picture by then that they should have been ALSO offering (as SHS does in S and Atlas does in O) a scale OPTION or VARIATION for/of their models... because what good it is going to be to have "NEW American flyer" when those who buy it are no longer with us!? And for the record, that "10-15 years" estimate came straight from the mouth of one of S scale's current manufacturers... NOT from my own determinings. So CLEARLY I am not the only one in touch with what is happening right under your noses... that coffee that you people can't smell. An OPTION is all I'm asking for here, people... an OPTION for scale appearance. If SHS and Atlas can do it, the so can Lionel. Yes, I know Lionel is a toy train company, but they want to stay in business in the future... don't they? Or do they? People, pull your heads out of the mud... I am NOT "Anti-Lionel"... I am just PRO SURVIVAL OF S SCALE. And "New american Flyer" is NOT going to draw in new modelers from other scales no matter what it is a model of or no matter what paint scheme you slap on it no sooner than taking a ROCK out of the ditch in your front yard and painting it in a CSX, NS, BNSF, or some other modern scheme and marketing it! Sure, AF guys LOVE it and swear by it... but they are not the future OR the survival of S. And slapping a set of scale wheels on that ROCK *along with the pretty, modern paint schemes) is not going to make me or ANY scale modeler more inclined to buy it. ( Better yet, instead of a ROCK, let's use a BRICK... since dricks do vaguely resemble the general shape of a modern loco or freight car... kinda... sorta... if you shut your right eye and look at it only with your left eye... ) Jim King dropped O scale production because he found out something that Lionel is apparently NOT capable of seeing... that O scale, like S scale, is dieing out (determined by decreasing sales)... and this is due to a problem that S scale also has - the VAST majority of it's support base is OVER the age of 70... and in many cases, WELL over! So tell me who Lionel is gonna sell it's :NEW American Flyer" to, and it's 3-rail O scaleto, to once you guys are no longer with us? And this doesn't even address the issue of the limited incomes these folks have. Oh well... once this inevitable train comes into the station, my meager investment in S scale will just serve (in 10-15 years) the purpose of funding the purchase of new models in HO, so I digress. Enjoy your toy. I'm going out to my garage to build one of the HO scale MODELs I just bought... John Degnan [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) ----- Original Message ----- From: _Alan Lambert_ (mailto:[email protected]) To: [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:49 PM Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: Pricey [... but nothing] At least we have "New" American Flyer.
