Jamie...
Great explanation!  You've been listening at those clinics.  Tomorrow I will 
post in the photos section a variety of underbody designs (Yes, Ed, even 
diagrams of many BUDD cars) as examples.  I'll also post a list of available 
detail parts (Both S Scale specific and other options) and some diagrams of the 
various components.  It would help everyone if McCarthy had pics of his parts 
on The Supply Car website and I guess that is coming someday.  Meanwhile, I 
will try to make it as simple as possible without photos.

The underbody details are not difficult to do.  It is recommended, however, 
that you do what you can to find photos of the cars you wish to model.  There 
are many on-line sources as well as passenger/freight car books for most any 
major railroad available today.

The big decision is determining if your cars are to have center skirts or not.  
This is mostly a decision based on what year you model (or how much detail you 
wish to add).  Most all lightweight cars came with skirting until 1952.  By 
1952, most roads had removed the center skirts from their cars for ease of 
maintenance.  New cars from 1952-58 came without skirts. If you model your cars 
without center skirts, the cars will look better because they will have more 
exposed details.  Of course, that means more underbody parts need be added to 
the cars.  More tomorrow!

Bob Hogan 

--- In [email protected], Jamie Bothwell <vze4cs43@...> wrote:
>
> Tom,
>       Here's basic rundown.  In my opinion the most important detail you can 
> add is a BTS 02402 Three Piece Brake Set because these would have been under 
> every car.  These were generally grouped together near the car center 
> lengthwise and off set to one side.  Probably the most striking visual 
> improvement you can make is  the BTS 02407 Truck Brake Cylinders and Torsion 
> Bars.  While not strictly an "under-side" part, these are very visible 
> because they are on the trucks.  BTS also makes the only available generator, 
> 02425.  These sat on the center sill with the drive shaft pointing towards 
> the nearest truck.  There should be a drive on the axel that would turn this, 
> but that's getting excessive.  Generally there would some battery boxes and 
> some air tanks along either side of the center sill.  The Supply Car sells 
> these.  BTS lists theirs as parts for heavyweights, but you may find some 
> useful.  The Supply Car has two types of water tanks.  Either is a good 
> choice unless you know which you want.  In general I'd say the 310-009 LW 
> Small APWS Tank is best.  These were mounted on the center sill of the car.  
> An air conditioner is a must for lightweight cars, and really for 
> heavyweights in the 1950's.  Many railroads used one type of AC unit on all 
> their cars.  Larger roads tended to have several types.  The Supply Car has a 
> couple varieties of AC units.  I believe part 310-003 shown on their website 
> is actually a Waukesha Ice Engine unit.  If you use this, you should also use 
> one of the propane cabinets part 310-011 or 310-013 as that was the fuel that 
> powered the unit.  Eastern roads seemed leery of these.  The PRR would not 
> run them through the tunnels into Penn Station in NYC.  AC units were placed 
> along one side of the car.  There were also some small control boxes and 
> other bits.  BTS offers some other parts like steam lines and end steps that 
> you might want to add.  This should get you started.  More information 
> available upon request.
> Jamie Bothwell
> 
> On Sep 2, 2012, at 3:47 PM, Tom Hawley wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I think Jamie recently offered help with under-body equipment placement on 
> > passenger cars if one would identify specific cars where this is wanted. 
> > (Can't find that specific message right now.)
> >  
> > What I had in mind was American Models' first passenger cars, the so-called 
> > smooth-side cars.  My own modelling needs don't require precise accuracy 
> > for specific cars, though that would be nice if easily obtainable.  I'd 
> > just like to see something under those cars to make them a little more 
> > realistic than they are with absolutely nothing down there. 
> >  
> > Tom Hawley  --  Lansing Michigan
>




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