Alan,
Black smoke is just unburned carbon  going up the smokestack, indicating 
incomplete/insufficient combustion.  The white "smoke" is condensed steam.
Charles Weston

--- On Mon, 10/22/12, Alan Lambert <[email protected]> wrote:

From: Alan Lambert <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Re: The "York" Conversation
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
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      From: Alan Lambert         Fort Worth, Texas  Ed, I always thought that 
the big black smoke cloud meant the steam engine was aplying more horsepower to 
move up certain grade conditions but after leveling off the smoke turned white  
or disapeared as horsepower was met for flat rail and speed conditions. Ant 
steam engineers out there want to add coments.            Alan Lambert 
        From: Ed <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:33 PM
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--- In mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com, "richgajnak" <rustytraque@...> wrote:

>

> Couple of quick points:

> 

> --- In mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com, "Ed" <Loizeaux@> wrote:

> > You are right -- the prototype has large billows of puffing smoke.  Most 
> > models have wispy wimpy white (not dark) smoke that is a poor 
> > representation of the real thing.  

> 

> Smoke on a steam locomotive indicates poor combustion.  Ideally, the fireman 
> should have a light haze coming out of the stack, fairly close to the white 
> stuff than spews out of models.

> 

> Of course, in the real world, conditions cange often and visible billows of 
> dark smoke happened quite frequently.  

> 

> I admit, when I fired at a railroad museum, we would "showboat" by making 
> smoke for the admiring masses, but running out in the boonies away form the 
> general public, I tried to keep my stack as clean as possible.

>  

> > Yes, I agree -- as long as accurate dimensions and slow smooth operation 
> > are not sacrificed in the process.  We should ask MTH and Lionel for better 
> > smoking features.  Perhaps a volume button and a color button -- black, 
> > gray or white.  Once it becomes realistic, I would agree it is a major 
> > feature that will be much in demand.  Right now, most scale modelers do not 
> > care that much about smoke.  

> > 

> > Cheers....Ed L.

> >

> Black smoke was covered by the O gaugers several times. Smoke fliud doesn't 
> lend itself to "tinting."  In order to make black or dark gray smoke, you're 
> going to need to have dark particulate matter coming out of the smoke units.  

> 

> It's bad enough cleaning the spew of the smoke fluid up.  Do you really want 
> prototypical soot all over your railroad and train room?

> 

> Rich G(ajnak)

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