the big question that i have is what "privacy laws", and most
important, who or what brought this into focus? and why does this
apply only to us? and to what end ? or is this simply an idea
that has morphed into another "department of homeland security", as
an example, i.e., why?
mel perry
On Oct 23, 2012, at 8:28 PM, scale S only wrote:
Hi all --
Let me put this into perspective. The NMRA with its much larger
resources decided to discontinue ANY membership information access
because of the privacy liability laws. This event triggered the
NASG BOT’s decision to follow suit. Needless to say, this has
caused a fair amount of flak from the members, both pro and con.
Right now, Claude Demers, membership chair, and Peter Vanvliet,
webmaster, are working hard to have a secure directory on line for
NASG members to access. For any members that have concerns about
their information being misused, they can go into their own
membership listing on line at www.nasg.org RIGHT NOW and make
changes to any part of it that they think is a problem. It will
take a bit of time before the change will go into effect because
the master directory is held off line where it can not be corrupted
by hackers or others.
However, I think the regional VPs have access to the membership
information, and it is possible-- with one giving information to
the VP that validates the enquirer’s membership – for the VP to try
and get whatever information you are looking for. This probably
would be something that could take a while depending upon the VP’s
personal schedule, so don’t expect to get anything right away.
With some luck, you will be able to do this yourself on line before
too long. (It has already been longer than anticipated because of
other things that had to be done first, but what doesn’t take
longer than expected?)
I submitted another possibility to the BOT which did not fly, but
maybe the whole group will have different feelings -- There could
be a printed directory IF and WHEN anyone who wants to be in it
fills out a form releasing whatever information he wishes,
returning that to the NASG. This would probably take several
months, or longer. THEN, whoever wants one of the printed
directories with this limited information will have to subscribe to
it at an extra cost, because it will not be a universally
distributed book. As you can see, this approach has many
problems associated with it, but is about as good a thing as I have
seen so far.
SO, you can email me (OFF LIST!!) or snail mail me with your
thoughts, including possible alternatives. Please, no phone calls
without emailing or writing first. DO NOT expect the NASG to ever
publish directories in the same way as in the past.
Bill Winans
NASG western VP
[email protected]
7940 E. Crooked Creek Trail
Prescott Valley, AZ 86314
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And technically it is now illegal.
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I don't believe that.
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Or at least can get ya sued.
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Anybody can sue anybody. There are lots of frivolous law suits. But
intelligent people don't let that deter them from useful activity.
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The court rulings on privacy are draconian and maybe a bit ridicules.
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Site one.
I still get a printed phone directory with names, addresses, and phone
numbers. People have the option of having their addresses omitted,
or to be
totally removed. The same would be true of our NASG directory.
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BUT; identity theft is now a common occurrence in our computerized
world..
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It takes more than your name and address to steal identity.
The cancelling of the directory is an over-reaction to fear-mongering.
Tom Hawley -- Lansing Mich
