After S Scenery took over the last of the Kinsman kits/or reintroduced them--not sure which. He eventually replaced the wooden roof and floor with urethane parts that were as good as anything made today. I don't know if Keith Wiseman has rerun those parts, but I really appreciated what was there. However, despite not being included in the kit were the end blocks and original wooden floor--you really needed those parts to attach grabs and keep the very thin urethane floor from sagging. I built three of those kits and still have one. The floor was a USRA type with deep fishbelly centersill and designed for the typical K brake setup. The roof was a basic Murphy style. S Scenery included Grandt end stills and ice platforms.

Bob Werre
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On 10/29/12 3:52 PM, richgajnak wrote:

Sorry Tom, one of those little voices in my head told me to say that. :-)

It's been over 20 years since I built a Kinsman kit, but as I remember, the sides, ends, roof and floor are sized and squared pretty well.

They do make pretty nice models as is. If I were to build one today, I'd probably just replace the brake detail with Grandt Line parts and the soft wire with brass wire.

As long as you don't paint them shocking pink or electric lime green, they blend in pretty well with today's stuff, even with the crude detail of yesteryear.

It's mostly a matter of taking your time and test fitting pieces as you go.

Rich G(ajnak)

--- In [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>, Thomas Baker <bakert@...> wrote:
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> Rich,
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> Right I know, but in my case--and I may be alone--pitfalls always surface. One needs to be aware of little tricks and techniques that avoid the pitfalls. I think it would be instructive to work parallel to someone who is working on the same project as I. At the end, a photo of the result might be fun to share on the group list. It may be that most modelers are way past all this.
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> Tom
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> Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Kinsman updated
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> --- In [email protected] <mailto:S-Scale%40yahoogroups.com>, Thomas Baker <bakert@> wrote:
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> > After an exhausting back and forth about Lionel wheels and what will happen if its wheels are not scale, how about a discussion on old kits and how to update them. By "old," I mean KINSMAN, Scenery Unlimited, Mainline, JC, and others, possibly even early AM. I have two KINSMAN seven-panel box cars and two cattle cars, one Northeastern and one Ambroid. I think they're really the same. I have yet to build them but would like to partner over the internet from time to time with another person who wants to jump in. Got some ideas for updating the kit? Just an idea.
> >
> > Tom
> It's very easy, Tom.
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> Just replace all the wood and metal parts in a Kinsman kit with contemporary equivalents.
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> Rich G(ajnak)
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