Hi Butch,

As a follow-up, Neil Stanton reviewed my web site article yesterday and commented that there is nothing factually wrong in it. He did, however, mention that I had forgotten to mention that there is the two-battery option for those engines with higher current draw, if you can fit two batteries in the engine. This would not extend the running time but would rather keep the same goal of 1- to 2-hour runs without recharging. The battery I show in my article is a 1000maH 3.7V one that the battery circuit board converts up to 11V (or thereabouts) at 300mA. The 300mA is for driving the motor and the LED light, if applicable. The two-battery solution provides the same 11V but produces 500mA. Note that if you use the Tsunami, it is going to eat up a lot more juice than the NCE decoder. Everything will work, but your run duration may be shorter if you are running on unpowered track (depending on how many of the sound features you use and the volume). I'll update my article with some of Neil's additional info, probably this weekend, if I have time.

As an aside, Bernard Kempinski, of Alkem Scale Models, converted one of his Civil War-era O-scale engines to S-CAB with battery power and Tsunami decoder, so the system works with (presumably bigger) O-scale motors:

http://usmrr.blogspot.com/2012_09_01_archive.html

I have gutted my NW2 so far. It looks like the battery will indeed fit flat, horizontally inside the body. I had previously tried it in the center of the body and it didn't fit. What I found out is that the body shell is slightly narrower (bowed-in) in the center as compared to the front end. I am able to fit the battery in the front of the engine (with the speaker removed). With that resolved (theoretically, at least), fitting the other two boards shouldn't be a problem. I will write an article when I have it done.

I have not opened up my RS-1 (kit by Railmaster), but just from holding the battery outside the body, it is clear it won't fit, unless I can get it in at an angle, but I know things are tight in there, even if I remove the Tsunami and the speaker. That one is going to be a real challenge.

I have the ABA configuration of American Models' FA-2 engines and those are cavernous. Fitting two of the batteries in each of the A units along with the other two circuit boards (even a Tsunami with speaker and external capacitor) is not going to be a problem.

One of our club members had me do some work on his SHS F3/F7 a while back, but if I remember correctly it is a bit tight in there. Your approach of using a semi-permanent hook-up with a dummy B would definitely work. Another idea is to consider removing part or all of a weight. I know I had to do that to some of my N-scale engines back in the day when I tried to get a DCC decoder in those. It was a real challenge with an N-scale SW9, but I did it. Judging by the pulling power I saw the SHS F3s demonstrate at Bill Lane's earlier this year, giving up a little bit of weight should not cause any operational problems.

 - Peter.


On 12/19/2012 12:34 pm, up148 wrote:
Way to go Peter.  I'm very interested in this technology so I'm glad to see you took the 
plunge. The BPS board sounds like the way to go if it will handle the amp load of 
"S" scale locos.

Very interested to see how your installation goes. I found the info and product 
explanation on your website to be very helpful (as always) and you actually 
explained some items better than the S-Cab website.

I figure if the BPS isn't large enough (amp wise) to handle a SHS F3 loco and if there isn't enough room 
inside the "A" unit for a larger battery, board and speaker, I'd just make a dummy out of a 
"B" unit and put the battery(s) in it and run jumpers to the "A" unit. I'd like to run an 
ABA or even ABBA and I don't care if they all carry the same address as they'll be a permanent consist on my 
layout.

Look forward to your progress.

Butch Holtgrieve


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