I'm on your side, John. I like to see what I'm buying before committing to buy. 
I guess that's why most of my locomotives start out as common off-the-shelf 
readily available products. American Models certainly did not have a preorder 
program for their FP-7, nor do I recall SHS doing the same for their offerings. 
I don't think "preorder" was even a part of the vocabulary when J.Lionel Cowan 
and A.C. Gilbert first offered their products.

I'm not saying there isn't a place for preorders, there's always those uncommon 
off-the-wall offerings that would never see the light of day without at least a 
minimum guaranteed market, but there's also a need for the common everyday 
items that make up the majority of model railroads, including track and track 
products.

Maybe I don't hsave a lot of these exotic items that some fell they can't live 
without, but, you know what? When I'm running my railroad as a miniature 
version of the prototype, I don't miss them a bit.

boB Nicholson

--- In [email protected], "John"  wrote:
>
> Hello Everybody;
> 
> Without a LHS or anybody within 150 miles who will, much less can, get S 
> scale Lionel or MTH I'm probably going to buy even less S scale stuff than I 
> have in the past.
> 
> My hobby money is what is left after all other necessities are taken care of. 
> I also have the very bad habit of needing to see what is being offered before 
> I commit those scarce dollars. Therefore, I'll probably never pre-order 
> anything expensive without the right of refusal. I've been burned too many 
> times in the past.
> 
> I once ordered some S Helper Service (SHS) items through a local hobby shop 
> (LHS)who got their stock from Walthers. This supply chain was so slow that 
> most anything that I ordered was already sold out before they could get it. 
> The LHS also didn't live up to our agreement to prominently display these 
> fine models. They instead kept them in the store room until I picked them up 
> even though I was paying for them as soon as they came in.
> 
> Regardless of the manufactures' business models, if the number of LHS 
> purchasing, displaying and supplying those products don't reach critical 
> mass, those product lines will dry up on the vine. This is the continuing 
> challenge that not only S scale but all toy/model railroading faces.
> 
> Thanks,
> John Oglesby
> Georgetown, Texas
>




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