This is an issue that is often discussed over at the OGR Forum, which is one of the reasons why I wish they (both MTH and Lionel) would see fit to offer a "base" model, without all the electronic stuff, to those of us who don't want it and/or won't use it.
Mark Mugnai --- In [email protected], "David Heine" wrote: > > Ed, > > > > I have heard similar complaints about the MTH HO engines. But it also seems > that their DCC compatibility is evolving and that newer engines may a have > few more CV's that can be programmed than the earlier ones; which also means > it isn't consistent between engines and you have to use the manual for each > particular engine. It does seems like they want to limit the functionality > of the DCC part of their electronics to force you do use their own system, > which could be an intentional business decision. > > > > Dave Heine > > Easton, PA > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > Edward Loizeaux > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2013 7:41 PM > To: List, S scale > Subject: {S-Scale List} MTH -- The HO perspective....... > > > > > > > > > Gents. > > > > I just returned from lunch with many HO buddies. The conversation today > turned to MTH engines in HO. Some of that conversation might be applicable > to future MTH S engines. The key word here is "might" since we don't know > anything for certain about their S offerings. > > > > The first inkling of negativism was a reference to MIKES TOY HOUSE. When I > heard that, I politely corrected it to MIKES TRAIN HOUSE. The whole group > then corrected me that TOY house was a more accurate name. Persisting as I > tend to do, it turns out the engines are quite acceptable cosmetically. It > is the electronic innards that nobody likes. Most all of these HO guys run > with NMRA DCC and they were quite uniform in their opinions. > > > > Even though MTH advertising claims DCC compatibility, the actual performance > is disappointing because many features become non-functional when using NMRA > DCC. According to the HO grapevine, things like consisting, speed matching, > some sounds and function mapping are not possible. And, the conventional > assignment of functions is not used. Thus, function buttons cause different > things to happen from what you have become used to. But the loco will run > and will backup. > > > > The HO crowd does not want to adopt the MTH command control system and so > they tear out the electronic innards and replace it with NMRA DCC decoders > of their own choosing. They are very upset with MTH because MTH keeps > trying to force them to use the MTH system. This forcing is resented. The > feeling is that MTH will not listen to them and is ! somewhat arrogant about > the entire matter. > > > > Notice that I am not claiming MTH S products will be the same as MTH HO > products. I do not know what the S product line will include or exclude. > The thing that I have noticed is that the massive HO crowd cannot > effectively influence MTH to change their product design. > > > > If the HO guys cannot influence things, what chance will the S guys have? > > > > Food for thought. Have fun with this one. > > > > Cheers.Ed Loizeaux > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: [email protected] [email protected] <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [email protected] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
