It's like long legged (high rail) dogs VS short legged (scale) dogs.

John Armstrong
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Bob Werre 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2013 8:45 PM
  Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} NASG Membership Interests: was S Gaugers in the 
NMRA


    
  Tom,  my idea is half just intended to eliminate 25% of the things that 
divide us.  Really the AF term is on the Dispatch masthead, it's on our NASG 
sponsored banners, and on some of the other publications.  But mostly it's been 
on the tongues of many of those guys who left our scale when it didn't grow in 
the 60's. To me it is like using the term Kodak (back in the day) for every 
camera made

    In today's world I would bet only where somebody is trying to create a 
museum is it kept pure AF.  If you operating much you mostly likely have let 
some other products run on the rails.  Indeed many guys to claim to be AF have 
been using Gargraves and other brands of track, + Plasticville--so they 
contaminated the AF world many years ago. AF is just another brand of S Scale 
that mostly uses hi-rail rail and flanges.  All the differences are mostly a 
matter of choice.  Some of us gravitate toward better detailed items, some hate 
building kits, some are happy with a Christmas tree type layout while others 
will try and search out the exact time the DRG&W raised the sideboards on their 
gondolas.  Will the guy studying the gondolas hang with the Christmas tree 
guy--probably not, will one make fun of the other--maybe but that's just a bit 
of life.  In my personal modeling I tend to be interested in what the gondola 
guy is saying rather than the guy who wants to talk about the differences 
between a 307 and a 302!  

  I think the legit disagreement might come about with what shows S Best and 
where is S going in the future.  Lionel and MTH think they have a market in S 
because they have invested new money in these projects.  It's quiet clear that 
what we've done in the past would probably rate a D or C- at best.  Money spent 
in the right direction might have helped.  Am I criticizing somebody else--yes 
and myself too!  

  Bob Werre
  PhotoTraxx  




      
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Bob Werre
    I have suggested before that we change our termonology somewhat and rid 
    ourselves of the AF catagory. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
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    I absolutely agree - but before we go charging off, what are we changing? I 
    just ran the NASG constitution & by-laws thru a word search in my word 
    processor, and neither the word American nor Flyer occur in either document.

    Where you do find the term "American Flyer" is on the cover of the Dispatch.

    But anyone who says S Gauge have a scale versus highrail (includes AF) 
    conflict has not given the matter much thought. We are a "house divided," 
    but the real cleft is between railroad modelling and toy train collecting, 
    not differing track & wheel standards. In other words, if my prototype is 
    the 2013 Norfolk Southern and his prototype is the 1950 American Flyer 
    catalog, we are not going to have much in common.

    We all need to be a little nicer to each other these days, in many ways. 
    And we can try to accommodate each other in our organizations. But denying 
    the existence of differences, or misidentifying them, will get us no where.

    Tom Hawley -- Lansing Michigan 






  

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