Hi Risto, all,
I have also had QWERTY phones as the main target for PuTTY. There is
some attempt in helping people with non-qwerty devices in the earlier
versions too, such as the send grid for quick access to some functions,
but that's a bit of an afterthought. I don't even have a single
non-qwerty phone myself. :)
Having said that, (clean) patches are always welcome, and the split view
could potentially work at least to some extent if you just kept the
terminal size as before but moved the part with the cursor in it to the
other half of the display. There is still a possible problem with
complex input from the FEP as Risto wrote -- most FEPs seem to assume
all controls are effectively editors where you can go back and change
already entered content, and that really doesn't work with a terminal...
The best bet might be to create a better "Send line" feature for
non-qwerty devices and make it easily accessible. I generally find it
better to use "Send line" instead of writing directly to the terminal:
Network lag doesn't affect editing, it's easier to review text and fix
typos, and it results in fewer packets which reduces network traffic.
After fighting with Avkon again for a couple of hours today I'd fully
support anybody who wishes to write a new Qt-based UI. Just don't expect
me to contribute much, PuTTY pretty much does what I need it to do
already. :)
Cheers,
Petteri
On 2010-10-27 16:30, Risto Avila wrote:
Hi,
It would be much nicer to have a transparent input layout for vkb.
Also at least I consider putty unusable with touch only device. It
needs lots of workaround to even work at as much as it works now. E.G.
the hacks in the feb buffer to "remember" what is writen until enter
is pressed == BAD FEP code. I've tried to analyze the depths of FEP
how it works and how it should work but there seems to be 0 examples 0
documentations so it's quite hard. Also space in the vkb is quite
limited to show up even a small fraction of the terminal screen (in a
readable format). I've like much much more about hw qwerty solution in
a phone where I'll be using putty but I've still tried to make a quite
simple UI for also non hw qwerty phones.
What happens when QT comes? since it seems QT is right around a
corner. Do we need a complete rewrite? at least for the UI? Should we
do it now? Is it worth our time to spend developing old FEP. Since QT
is supported by 5.0 and s^3 and will be in the future mostlikely our
only platform to support.
-Risto
On 26.10.2010 10:13, Jari Airaksinen wrote:
Hi,
Is there plans to update putty touch text input to support split view
input introduced in S^3:
http://wiki.forum.nokia.com/index.php/Split_view_input_in_Symbian_C%2B%2B_applications
Would be usefull to be able to see the lower part of terminal window
while inputting text. For example in irssi use and I quess in many
other shell usecases also.
br
Jari
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