Are you a member of NNLC ? ----- Original Message ----- From: Nkosinathi Mamba To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 1:20 PM Subject: Re: [SSN Forum] Gavin Internet Revolutionary
Comrade Garvin you seem to think that the struggle is about the internet. Some of the questions you ask are just meaningless. I am starting to think that you are bored and have nothing to do. Some will talk, some will fight, some will die and some will send emails. This is the struggle comrade. You are good at sending emails, so do it comrade and maybe PUDEMO must have a pillar called E-mail Struggle and you can lead it. Comrade Ray took a pillar of the movement and implemented it and I have engaged him on this many times and he has told me that he spoke to Masuku before starting this thing and Masuku told him to go ahead. Now you are all barking at him. Jabavu has scars for this revolution, he led the longest march of SWAYOCO from Mbabane to Manzini, he led the longest hunger strike that defeated the 60 days detention without trial. And you comrade? You ran away at the drop of a hat and now you are shouting from the balcony in America. Just stay there and you will come and be a minister of e-mails when we finish. We don't need you to confuse us. Siya Embili. From: gavtrevor <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 11:59 AM Subject: [SSN Forum] You cant be wrong to get right re Re: Viva Talks about Talks Comrade Nkosinati, I have read what you wrote below with interest and it may turn out to be you that helps us unravel the story of talks about talks. I take it you a member of PUDEMO and its youth Structures that is also held by all the modus of the Movement and that participating in political events of this manner was in your judgment a personal rather than an organizational matter. This is how it should be. However, when it comes to the historical matters, that for which we have paths and detailed agreements and a Leadership charges with the minutiae and process : the set of tools that we manage ? Before I take opportunity to discuss what you wrote below please clarify the this statement. I also will deal with what you wrote down as said by comrade ray russon separately as I think I would prefer to deal with your direct impute and ideas than the spurious accusatory dreams of an egotist. You wrote "I have heard the story of a third force and it is starting to make sensenow.".... Explain. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: "Swaziland Solidarity Network Forum" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 8:26 AM Subject: [SSN Forum] Re: PUDEMO LEADS! Viva Talks about Talks Comrades, I am a studewnt leader in one of the institutions of higher learning. I am a member of SWAYOCO, SNUS and Yuoth in Action Yes PUDEMO Leads and must do so in all fronts of our struggle. I am worried that PUDEMO does not want to lead the negotiations path. We the students and youth support the Talks about Talks. In fact we attended the Convention of Civil Society and we are satisfied with this process. I salute SNAT, the teachers union for supporting Talks about Talks and for supporting the students movement. I can not accept the argument that we are not ready to talk. There is never a right time or wroong time to talk and that is why this process is called Talks about Talks. For 30 years we have been struggling and we are still not ready to talk. Siyadlala lapha. This is a very good time to push for talks because the regime is on the ropes, the judicial crises, education crises, financial crises, konkhe nje kuyabhedza. We should take this opportunity to push the regime to a negotiated settlement. It is the the finacnail crises of apartheid that forced South Africa to the table isn't it comrades. The party that extends the hand of peace in any conflict retains the moral high ground. When opening the Conventin Comrade Ray said one important thing and I wrote it down, "We must retain the moral high ground in our struggle and by calling for talks we are telling the world that we care for this country and for our people, History will judge all those who are not here tonite". Mswati was invited and he boycotted the opening ceremony. This showed the whole world that he doesn't care for the country and his people. It is sad that he was joined by our beloved PUDEMO in the process. I have heard the story of a third force and it is starting to make sensenow. If Mswati plays the fool let us not be fools also because when 2 fools argue you ca't see the difference. Embili Ngwane On Nov 22, 9:29 am, mandisa dube <[email protected]> wrote: > A strategic moment comes once in a while. Let us seize this moment. > Political ideology unites people: confusion around ideology leads to > confusion in the organisation and ultimately leads to confusion in the > strategy and tactics. That is why today there is a confusion whether > we a struggling for a constitutional monarchy or a democratic > republic.The organisation is a weagon for the implementation of our > ideology. > > Who is the enemy of the Swazi people? Doesn't a polico-military > strategy require political and military structures? Preparedness is > crucial. > > The feudal-lords and imperialists have monopoly over our land. A > majority of the Swazi populace resides in the rural areas under the > rule of the landlord. This makes the agrarian revolution a very > crucial element of our struggle. Then a question comes; does the Mass > Democratic Movement in Swaziland have a clear agrarian programme aimed > at the total destruction of feudal relations? Feudalism is an > impediment to socio-economic development everywhere. Forward to an > Agrarian Guerilla-warfare! We must uproot the landlords from our > communities. > > On the constitutional monarchy: i think mswati and his family's fate > will be determined by the role they play now, that is, in the struggle > for the democratisation of our beloved country. And the reality now is > that the monarchy as an institution (chiefs included) is a stumbling > bloc, it is trying to fight against social development: trying to > fight against the laws of nature. Another question comes, what will be > the role of the monarchy in a democratic Swaziland? Moreover, what is > culture? > > On the liberatin front. Is the SUDF properly structured? Is it a > democratic or bureaucratic front? The truth is, most constituances of > the SUDF's affiliates doesn't have a clue of what's cooking in the > liberation front, let alone its aims and objectives. In the branches > of the trade unions (shopfloor level) for instance, the workers don't > even know what the abriviation SUDF stands for. The liberation front > is not democratic if it does not involve the rural communities. And > these communities can only be mobilised through their day-to-day > struggles in their respective areas. We must urgently build a > campaigns and demands based rural people's movement. The > worker-peasants alliance can be built through action only. > > That is why we view the current negotiations as premature. What is it > that we have won on the battle-field? Are we negotiating for our > freedom? Negotiating with who? A transition process must also be > democratic. What transition that does not respect the participation of > the communities. Community based organisations, the rural communities > in particular, must be built and strengthened so that they play their > rightful role in this process. They must speak for themselves. We > can't decide on their behalf. > > PUDEMO is a vanguard of the national liberation struggle in Swaziland, > and that must be seen in practice. No one should be allowed to spoil > PUDEMO's political, not even its leadership. The workers are the main > force of our struggle, and that too, must be seen in practice. > > Tinkhundla must be dismantled and an interim government put in place. > Phansi nge royal aristocracy! Forward to a Democratic Republic! > > Viva PUDEMO! Viva SUDF! Viva TUCOSWA! Viva CPS! > The people shall govern! The people shall share! Atibhunye tinsiba enhlolo! -- NEW!!!! SSN FORUM IS ON FACEBOOK!!!! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Swaziland Solidarity Network Forum Google Group. Visit the group home page at http://groups.google.com/group/sa-swaziland-solidarity-eom-forum for more options, pages and files. To post to the group, send email to [email protected] or reply to this message. To unsubscribe, send email to [email protected] -- NEW!!!! SSN FORUM IS ON FACEBOOK!!!! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Swaziland Solidarity Network Forum Google Group. 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