Hi Matthew, Thanks for your interest and request for more background to decide what's the right thing to do.
Sage-Combinat started back in 2008, as a reincarnation of a similar project MuPAD-Combinat (we switched the underlying platform from MuPAD to Sage). At some point Sage-Combinat was a tightly knit group of about 30 people working together on the core combinatorics feature; this required tight coordination and a common location for sharing in-development code (which was the Sage-Combinat queue). With time, the breath of features have widened a lot, with interactions with many other areas of Sage. Also the switch to git and the emergence of "Sage packages" made it much easier for smaller groups of people to get together on a subproject basis when collaborating on specific topics. So Sage-Combinat has become a rather loose community. All being good things. Nevertheless, Sage-Combinat and http://combinat.sagemath.org/ are cited in many places, including 100+ publications. So we want this URL to keep working, for historical reasons and future work. Hence my advocacy for keeping the wiki pages http://wiki.sagemath.org/Combinat/* where they are, and making sure the URL http://combinat.sagemath.org/ redirects there. For the two repositories "misc" and "patches": as I mentioned in my previous mail, we want to keep them around, somewhere. It's a good occasion to migrate them to git for consistency. I don't mind where they are hosted, git.sagemath.com, github, or elsewhere. I was just suggesting github because there already are many Sage-related repos there. As for the *machine* combinat.sagemath.org: this used to be a physical machine, funded in 2012 or something by one of our NSF grant. - It's ok if combinat.sagemath.org does not point to a physical machine or actually a machine at all. - For the hardware: IIRC, it's been recycled to power some of the Sage infrastructure and SMC. All is good as long as it is put to good use for the Sage community until it's time to be retired. Cheers, Nicolas PS: Another factor why Sage-Combinat is somewhat quieter as such (and in particular the wiki pages got outdated!) is that the energy I was spending animating this community got diverted by my leading the ODK European project. I can't wait until I get back to combinatorics development ... On Fri, Jan 13, 2017 at 11:04:18PM -0800, Matthew Rennekamp wrote: > I'm not sure about pulling anything into GitHub. Adding to reasons > here https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/sage-devel/j3BtPrq62kg, we > might just go ahead and make it a repo on git.sagemath.com, or add it > all to trac. Would a website now be useful as it had been? It seems > like Combinat is just a name for a niche group of developers. What sort > of history precedes and succeeds this all? Since I only got into > [technically, returned to] Sage within the last month, I both have a > lack of relationships with developers and a general lack of knowledge > about the who's/what's/why's of the project. William gave me access to > the files, so I'll be looking through them over the weekend. > So, if GitHub wouldn't be an option, what then? Again, we could move it > to the main git host or merge it all to one of SageWiki or trac, but we > could simply "revive" combinat.sagemath.org. I worry that doing so will > unnecessarily spread out available information, so it would be wise to > be precise in what will be there. I can't comment on content when I ad > absurdium the purpose of Combinat. (Something about trac being > developer's information for coding, SageWiki for organizing full-scale > projects, combinat.sagemath.org for academic research stuff, etc. Or > something like it would be helpful in describing these relationships.) > What about other projects? SageManifolds has their own thing going on, > and I don't know much about it. > Tl;dr: organisation from higher up needs to be established, in order to > keep navigation intuitive. I say that we should just make a page, > sagemath.org/combinat , for now. > On Thursday, January 12, 2017 at 9:55:18 PM UTC-5, Matthew Rennekamp > wrote: > > I'm working on the [1]www.sagemath.org & SageWiki. What happened to > [2]combinat.sagemath.org? Are there other places those files are > stored? > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "sage-combinat-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to [3]sage-combinat-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to > [4]sage-combinat-devel@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at > [5]https://groups.google.com/group/sage-combinat-devel. > For more options, visit [6]https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > References > > 1. http://www.sagemath.org/ > 2. http://combinat.sagemath.org/ > 3. mailto:sage-combinat-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > 4. mailto:sage-combinat-devel@googlegroups.com > 5. https://groups.google.com/group/sage-combinat-devel > 6. https://groups.google.com/d/optout Nicolas -- Nicolas M. 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