I could volunteer some time at the joint meetings at a table. I hope by then to be at least a small scale developer.
I am very interested in using sage in the courses I teach, but I initially became interested for research reasons. It would be great to have a special session at the 2009 joint meetings for research using sage. I would be happy to help organize that if any help is needed. On wikipedia there are alreay quite a few examples of code snippets written in Python or Perl. Depending on the context, I think pure python makes more sense than sage for what I've seen since it is more portable/accessible to most people. If you are illustrating one specific idea, you can usually do it in python. Of course, for very mathematical subject matter (like modular forms) it may make more sense to use sage. -Marshall Hampton On May 16, 2:13 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 5/16/07, Nathan Ryan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Is anyone actively using this, daily, as part of their course work, > > > as would be done with Matlab, Mathematica, and the like? Perhaps at > > > Sage Days 4, there could be some discussion of how well it works in > > > practice, both for full-time classroom use (i.e., not as an "off to > > > the side" curiosity), and for math research. One aspect to consider > > > is how often, in these uses, do you run into dead-ends, parts of the > > > package that aren't yet implemented. > > I use SAGE for an undergrad number theory course I'm teaching right > now, where SAGE already blows away the competition. > > > I'm teaching multivariable calc in the fall and plan on using it then. > > In order to prepare for that, I'm having a student at UCLA go through > > Mathematica packets used here to look for exactly these kinds of > > dead-ends. He and I will report on what we find. > > If we still don't have 3-d graphing by then, will it be a major obstruction? > Obviously I hope we do have good 3-d graphics in the notebook by > the end of the summer... > > > On a similar note, I have a couple of ideas to increase SAGE's > > visibility (okay, maybe 3): > > > 1. Once we have a feature-frozen version of the calculus package up and > > > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > That will never happen :-). But SAGE-2.5 now does have a pretty usable > calculus package up and running. > > > running, it might be nice to get a table at the joint meetings. I think > > it's pretty expensive, but there might be some other way to have a > > significant commercial-like presence at the meetings. This seems to be > > a sure-fire way to get thousands of new people exposed to SAGE in a weekend. > > David Joyner checked on this yesterday. The next joint meeting is in San > Diego > in January, and it costs $400 for us to get a table, since we are "First > timers" > and they have a discount for first timers. Would you be willing to > help out with > such a booth? > > > 2. I think it would also be interesting to organize special sessions on > > SAGE (either in sectional or national meetings) couched as either > > teaching or research sessions. > > The deadline already passed for the national meeting in January in 2008. > We could aim for a special session in 2009. Let's not forget and miss > the deadline again! > Regarding sectional meetings, that's a great idea. I'm actually giving a > plenary talk on SAGE at the AMS Sectional Meeting, Salt Lake City, UT > July 30-Aug 3, 2007. > > > 3. Just like Mathworld has a bunch of Mathematica code interspersed, I > > think it would be interesting to have a bunch of sage code interspersed > > throughout Wikipedia or PlanetMath. > > There might be massive amounts of politics involved in doing that, which we'll > have to figure out how to negotiate. > I don't contribute much to Wikipedia or PlanetMath, so maybe somebody who is > involved could make some comments. Remember that MathWorld is owned > by Mathematica, so they don't have to worry about such politics since they're > in their own little world. > > > I understand there are a bunch of possible issues with these ideas, but > > I just wanted to throw them out there. > > They are all good ideas. The issues are all just challenges that we should > find ways to deal with. > > -- > William Stein > Associate Professor of Mathematics > University of Washingtonhttp://www.williamstein.org --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
