Blocking on GitHub, I presume, is due to disagreements on a number of topics, including the topic discussed in this thread. So it's related to the topic, and personal only as it was done by a person, not by an AI.
On 27 February 2024 22:17:50 GMT, John H Palmieri <jhpalmier...@gmail.com> wrote: >That's called "whataboutism". Invoking what you consider inappropriate >behavior by others is not relevant. Please stay on topic, and please follow >Sage's code of conduct in your posts. > >On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 1:01:25 PM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: > >> >> >> On 27 February 2024 20:44:50 GMT, John H Palmieri <jhpalm...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >Sentences like "At the moment you are actively breaking down the precious >> >project fabric, all in the name of you having your way" are personal >> >attacks. Please stop. >> >> Blocking on GitHub members of the project is not a personal attack? >> Of course it is. >> >> >> > >> >On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 12:36:44 PM UTC-8 Dima Pasechnik wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> On 27 February 2024 19:37:31 GMT, Matthias Koeppe <matthia...@gmail.com> >> >> >> wrote: >> >> >On Tuesday, February 27, 2024 at 10:50:55 AM UTC-8 John H Palmieri >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >A pretty safe second choice would be to have "make download" also >> >> download >> >> >the relevant files for pip installation and tell pip where to find >> them. >> >> If >> >> >we implemented this second choice [...] >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >The problem is that such tooling, even if "trivial", would need to be >> >> >implemented, tested, and maintained as well. And typically this just >> does >> >> >not work when there is no developer who is actually interested in >> using >> >> it. >> >> >> >> It is a largely artificially invented, by you, problem, to shoot my >> >> proposal down. Besides, these tools are trivial to build and maintain, >> much >> >> easier than your ever growing and breaking maze of packages we don't >> even >> >> need to vendor. >> >> >> >> At the moment you are actively breaking down the precious project >> fabric, >> >> all in the name of you having your way: >> >> >> >> you blocked me (without bothering yo even tell me) and perhaps other >> >> developers on GitHub, meaning that you effectively want to shut me up. >> >> (Well, I had no other choice but to block you too, as a countermeasure; >> I >> >> installed this block about 12:00 GMT, today.) >> >> >> >> Of course it's easy to skip this message. But tomorrow it might be you >> who >> >> Matthias might block, for disagreements with him. >> >> Why is this tolerated? This is a naked attempt to shut down the >> opposition. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >We are better off with improving the tooling that we already know >> *will* >> >> >continue to be used: Namely the tooling for creating and maintaining >> our >> >> >metadata in build/pkgs. >> >> >> >> Or it will be discarded as useless, because doing things the way >> projects >> >> like scipy do is better. >> >> >> >> Your package tooling is makework, repeating with worse tools what >> already >> >> is done by Conda, Homebrew, Linux distros, etc. We are mainly a maths >> >> project, not a distro project. Let us stay this way, and actually do >> more >> >> maths and less distro-like stuff. >> >> >> >> Dima >> >> >> >> >> >> > Issues such as: >> >> >- https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/36356, >> >> >- https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/37322, >> >> >- https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/37323, >> >> >- https://github.com/sagemath/sage/issues/37314 >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"sage-devel" group. >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >To view this discussion on the web visit >https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/3f85faf4-840a-4965-bd81-797f2733843fn%40googlegroups.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sage-devel/6D2FFF01-A6CB-4398-87A7-171B07D521FB%40gmail.com.
