The question is which one should be first in PATH for sage -t 

On February 2, 2026 1:57:23 AM CST, Antonio Rojas <[email protected]> wrote:
>There are two 'sage' executables: the python entry point installed by meson 
>in $PATH, and the bash script from the sage source tree. Only the latter 
>accepts the '-t' option.
>
>El lunes, 2 de febrero de 2026 a las 8:44:06 UTC+1, [email protected] 
>escribió:
>
>Hm.
>
>martin@toolbox:~$ which sage 
>martin@toolbox:~$ mamba activate sage-dev 
>(sage-dev) martin@toolbox:~$ which sage 
>/home/martin/miniforge3/envs/sage-dev/bin/sage 
>(sage-dev) martin@toolbox:~$ echo $PATH 
>/home/martin/miniforge3/envs/sage-dev/bin:/home/martin/miniforge3/condabin:/home/martin/.local/bin:/home/martin/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:
>/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games:/snap/bin 
>(sage-dev) martin@toolbox:~$ ls ~/bin 
>sage-alt
>(sage-dev) martin@toolbox:~$ ls ~/.local/bin 
>arxiv_latex_cleaner  coverage   coverage-3.8  cysignals-CSI  cythonize  
>gprof2dot  markdown-it  pygmentize  runsnake     snakeviz 
>codespell            coverage3  cygdb         cython         git-trac   
>kernprof   pycodestyle  relint      runsnakemem  tuna 
>(sage-dev) martin@toolbox:~$  
>
>I guess I should do some cleaning, but I cannot find a second sage.
>
>Martin
>
>
>On Sunday, 1 February 2026 at 20:32:08 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote:
>
>
>
>On February 1, 2026 12:21:37 PM CST, 'Martin R' via sage-devel <
>[email protected]> wrote: 
>>apparently there is a problem with gap_package_hap. I can run and access 
>>it in an interactive session, but it makes the doctester hang. 
>> 
>>what is the difference when something is executed as part of doctesting? 
>> 
>>possibly related: although I can start sage using 
>> 
>>(sage-dev) martin@toolbox:~/sage-trac$ sage 
>> 
>>I need to prepend "./" when I want to run "sage -t". 
>> 
>probably you have a version of sage in your PATH, which is not the same as 
>./sage 
>
>this spells trouble... 
>
>
>
>
>>Martin 
>> 
>> 
>>On Friday, 30 January 2026 at 08:54:22 UTC+1 Martin R wrote: 
>> 
>>> I don't really know, but I don't think that I have any other gap things 
>>> installed (yet). 
>>> 
>>> (sage-dev) martin@toolbox:~/sage-trac$ mamba list 
>>> List of packages in environment: "/home/martin/miniforge3/envs/sage-dev" 
>>> 
>>> Name Version Build 
>>> Channel 
>>> 
>──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────
> 
>
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
>>> pillow 11.3.0 py312h7b42cdd_3 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> pip 25.2 pyh8b19718_0 
>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
>>> ptyprocess 0.7.0 pyhd8ed1ab_1 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> pure_eval 0.2.3 pyhd8ed1ab_1 
>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
>>> pycosat 0.6.6 py312h4c3975b_3 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> pycparser 2.22 pyh29332c3_1 
>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
>>> pysocks 1.7.1 pyha55dd90_7 
>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
>>> python-fastjsonschema 2.21.2 pyhe01879c_0 
>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
>>> pytz 2025.2 pyhd8ed1ab_0 
>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
>>> pyzmq 27.1.0 py312hfb55c3c_0 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> qd 2.3.22 h2cc385e_1004 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> qhull 2020.2 h434a139_5 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> qt6-main 6.9.2 h3fc9a0a_0 
>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> rapidfuzz 3.14.1 py312h1289d80_0 
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>>> readline 8.2 h8c095d6_2 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> referencing 0.36.2 pyh29332c3_0 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> requests 2.32.5 pyhd8ed1ab_0 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> requests-toolbelt 1.0.0 pyhd8ed1ab_1 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> restructuredtext_lint 1.4.0 pyhd8ed1ab_1 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> roman-numerals-py 3.1.0 pyhd8ed1ab_0 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> rpds-py 0.27.1 py312h868fb18_1 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> rpy2 3.5.11 py312r42hc7c0aa3_3 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> ruamel.yaml 0.18.15 py312h4c3975b_1 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> ruamel.yaml.clib 0.2.12 py312h4c3975b_1 
>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
>>> ruff 0.13.3 ha3a3aed_0 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> rw 0.9 hd590300_2 
>>> conda-forge 
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>>> 
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>>> conda-forge 
>>> sagemath-db-graphs 20210214 hd8ed1ab_0 
>>> conda-forge 
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>>> shellingham 1.5.4 pyhd8ed1ab_1 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> simplegeneric 0.8.1 pyhd8ed1ab_2 
>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
>>> sirocco 2.1.0 hd7ee782_1 
>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
>>> smmap 5.0.2 pyhd8ed1ab_0 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> snowballstemmer 3.0.1 pyhd8ed1ab_0 
>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
>>> sphinxcontrib-htmlhelp 2.1.0 pyhd8ed1ab_1 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> sphinxcontrib-jsmath 1.0.1 pyhd8ed1ab_1 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> sphinxcontrib-qthelp 2.0.0 pyhd8ed1ab_1 
>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
>>> symengine 0.14.0 h064106a_1 
>>> conda-forge 
>>> symmetrica 3.1.0 hb03c661_0 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> conda-forge 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Thursday, 29 January 2026 at 23:45:36 UTC+1 [email protected] wrote: 
>>> 
>>>> It might be trying to get an online resource, a GAP database of groups 
>>>> (e.g. altasrep). 
>>>> What GAP packages are installed? 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On January 29, 2026 4:02:45 PM CST, 'Martin R' via sage-devel < 
>>>> [email protected]> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>>> I am on ubuntu, with conda, and have an extremely strange situation: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> (sage-dev) martin@toolbox:~/sage-trac$ ./sage -t --verbose 
>>>>> src/sage/groups/perm_gps/permgroup.py 
>>>>> Running doctests with ID 2026-01-29-22-58-01-92547518. 
>>>>> Git branch: develop 
>>>>> Git ref: 10.9.beta4 
>>>>> Running with SAGE_LOCAL='/home/martin/miniforge3/envs/sage-dev' 
>>>>> Using --optional=conda,pip,sage,symengine 
>>>>> Features to be detected: 
>>>>> 
>32_bit,4ti2,benzene,bliss,buckygen,conway_polynomials,coxeter3,csdp,cvxopt,cvxopt,database_cremona_ellcurve,database_cremona_mini_el
> 
>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>lcurve,database_cubic_hecke,database_ellcurves,database_graphs,database_jones_numfield,database_knotinfo,dot2tex,dvipng,ecm,flatter,fpylll,fricas,gap_package
> 
>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>_atlasrep,gap_package_design,gap_package_grape,gap_package_guava,gap_package_hap,gap_package_polenta,gap_package_polycyclic,gap_package_qpa,gap_package_quagr
> 
>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>oup,gfan,giac,glucose,graphviz,imagemagick,info,ipython,jmol,jupymake,jupyter_sphinx,kenzo,khoca,kissat,latte_int,lrcalc_python,lrslib,mathics,matroid_databa
> 
>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>se,mcqd,meataxe,meson_editable,mpmath,msolve,nauty,networkx,numpy,palp,pandoc,pdf2svg,pdftocairo,pexpect,phitigra,pillow,plantri,polytopes_db,polytopes_db_4d
> 
>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>,pplpy,primecountpy,ptyprocess,pycosat,pycryptosat,pynormaliz,pyparsing,python_igraph,regina,requests,rpy2,rubiks,sage.combinat,sage.geometry.polyhedron,sage
> 
>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>.graphs,sage.groups,sage.libs.braiding,sage.libs.ecl,sage.libs.flint,sage.libs.gap,sage.libs.giac,sage.libs.homfly,sage.libs.linbox,sage.libs.m4ri,sage.libs.
> 
>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>ntl,sage.libs.pari,sage.libs.singular,sage.misc.cython,sage.modular,sage.modules,sage.numerical.mip,sage.plot,sage.rings.complex_double,sage.rings.finite_rin
> 
>
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>gs,sage.rings.function_field,sage.rings.number_field,sage.rings.padics,sage.rings.polynomial.pbori,sage.rings.real_double,sage.rings.real_mpfr,sage.sat,sage.
> 
>
>>>>> 
>schemes,sage.symbolic,sage_numerical_backends_coin,sagemath_doc_html,scipy,singular,sirocco,sloane_database,sphinx,symengine_py,sympy,tdlib,threejs,topcom
> 
>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Doctesting 1 file. 
>>>>> src/bin/sage -t --warn-long 5.0 
>>>>> --random-seed=10763884564472103541661530835467931176 
>>>>> src/sage/groups/perm_gps/permgroup.py 
>>>>> 
>>>>> After this, nothing happens anymore, and even more surprisingly, the 
>cpu 
>>>>> is idle. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> cubegroup.py in the same directory works, also permgroup_element.pyx, 
>>>>> but permgroup_named.py does not. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any ideas? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Martin 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>> 
>
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