The problem there at the moment for me is that it punts to "conda" 
documentation for how to get conda set up -- and conda seems very insistent 
on messing with my ".bashrc". I don't want that! 


 You don't need this (and if I recall correctly the interactive installer 
asks if you want to init conda in the shell). The purpose of this option is 
to have the base conda env activated all the time (eg to make conda's 
python available on the shell), but it's perfectly fine to just have a 
`sage` env and activate that manually using `conda activate sage`. 
See 
https://github.com/conda-forge/miniforge?tab=readme-ov-file#automatic-activation-of-environments
 
for more details.

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