On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:20 PM, William Stein<wst...@gmail.com> wrote: [...] > Anyway, +1 to their being a BSD'd build system. Most code in Sage > is GPL'd because either (1) it is derived from code GPL'd a decade > ago, or (2) we'll get ripped off by the Ma's. The build system > doesn't fall into either category.
Exactly, that's what I thought too. Also +1 about the python build system (but bash/sh is ok too). On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 4:22 PM, William Stein<wst...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Dag Sverre > Seljebotn<da...@student.matnat.uio.no> wrote: [...] >> I think something important is missing from the picture: >> >> NumPy/SciPy isn't exactly a majority player either! In large parts of >> science and engineering the big M's (mostly MATLAB), Fortran and to some >> extent C++ are the only tools people have even heard of. (In my department >> few have even heard about Python.) >> >> Looking ahead, it might be that Mathematica is what is likely to supersede >> MATLAB, not any form of Python (according to one source of opinion -- I >> don't know much about this myself). >> >> Now SciPy, EPD, SPD etc. is great for people who know programming, and who >> want a better mix of software engineering and numerics/science packages. >> But, I don't see them ever becoming the simple, unified mathematical >> package which engineers could learn as their first tool in college. (And >> where 1/10 is by default something decent, yet numerics easily >> available...) >> >> I see in Sage (proper, not SPD!) the hope of something I really, really >> want, and which I think SciPy/Enthought/SPD isn't even trying to do. In fact, we are trying to do exactly this with femhub, for finite element calculations, to be the thing that engineers that never heard of Python (or never used that) could easily use it. SPD is just the first step that can get us started to customize Sage. >> Obviously, the SciPy conference people are the selection of people who >> wants what the SciPy stack does though. >> >> The prime audience of a hypothetical numerics-boosted Sage are all of >> those who are likely unaware of the existance of Python in the first >> place, and those obviously haven't voted here (many of them don't even >> have the software skills to attend SciPy 09). >> >> All I can do though is ask you not to close the door for numerics if and >> when somebody steps up to lead the charge. >> >> Dag Sverre >> > > I think you're absolutely 100% right. I received other email offlist > from people pointing out exactly the same point. Many thanks for > the above clarification. I indeed did completely miss the point. > > OK, any volunteers to lead the charge? :-) You of course. :) Ondrej --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-devel-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
