On Fri, Jul 31, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Dr. David Kirkby
<david.kir...@onetel.net>wrote:

>
> Marshall Hampton wrote:
> > I agree, that doesn't sound good.  At the moment, I just want to check
> > out the sandpile functionality, so I don't think I will wade in and
> > try to improve glpk, or bug the author to do so.
> >
> > On the positive side, I think I now have packages that install
> > correctly, at least on my own mac.  They are at:
> >
> >
> > http://www.d.umn.edu/~mhampton/4ti2.p0.spkg<http://www.d.umn.edu/%7Emhampton/4ti2.p0.spkg>
> > http://www.d.umn.edu/~mhampton/glpk.p0.spkg<http://www.d.umn.edu/%7Emhampton/glpk.p0.spkg>
> >
> > i.e. I have overwritten my previous broken versions.
> > This is also now trac ticket #6663 (http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/
> > ticket/6663).
> >
> > -Marshall
>
> I'm not a mathematician, don't have a clue what this does, so I am
> probably looking at this from a very different point of view to most.
> But I don't think it's a good idea to include code that hides warnings.
>
> Again, it's a personal thing but when I look at web sites, like Wolfram
> Research's, which has 42 errors:
>
>
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.wolfram.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0
>
> it always makes me wonder how seriously quality is taken.
>
> In contrast the Sage site has zero errors:
>
>
> http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sagemath.org%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline&group=0&user-agent=W3C_Validator%2F1.654
>
> Mathematicians I've worked worth have always paid a lot of attention to
> detail - far more than I think engineers tend to. If someone covers up
> their compiler errors, it makes me wonder whether sufficient attention
> to detail is applied elsewhere.
>
> If someone like WRI, Maplesoft etc wanted to try to point out the
> disadvantages of Sage, showing how we hide warnings would be like giving
> them ammunition to blow us up with.
>
> I'm sure a lot of people will disagree with me, but personally I would
> avoid adding things to sage that rely on code that is built like that.
>

I agree with you.  It is difficult to disagree with such a natural technical
way to improve quality.

 -- William

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