On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Joshua Herman <zitterbeweg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Man i'm drooling over this thread already. What about some type of
> blade system like from IBM? http://www-03.ibm.com/systems/bladecenter/

I consider that approach last year (in late 2008).  Then, without
surprisingly expensive add-ons, blade systems appear like a bunch of
separate machines with a (very) fast network.  This is more work to
manage for a sysadmin, and much more difficult to use for end users.
 It may be worth looking into this again.

william

>
> On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 4:10 AM, Robert Bradshaw
> <rober...@math.washington.edu> wrote:
>> On Jan 22, 2010, at 2:49 PM, Tom Boothby wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Simon King <simon.k...@nuigalway.ie>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Would it be possible to have a faster disk system in *general* (i.e.,
>>>> in the /home part)?
>>>> I don't know, I am no hardware expert, perhaps NFS==slow.
>>>> But that would be a nice thing to have.
>>
>> Of course our disk server had other major issues recently, so I don't know
>> if that's a good measure of how well NFS works. While we're dreaming, it
>> would be nice if all the machines had a /scratch, and if we're looking at
>> new ones maybe something better than a usb drive hanging out of the back
>> (perhaps even local raid).
>>
>>>> Actually, for some applications, sage.math isn't the fastest.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Excellent points!  I'm definitely in favor of adding a few larger hard
>>> drives to the machines, because I really hate our current setup with
>>> USB drives cluttering up the rack.  With regard to speed... there are
>>> faster processors out there, but this comes at the cost of cores.  We
>>> could run 16 cores at 3.4GHz, which I could get behind.  We could push
>>> this further, and cut down to 8 cores at 3.7GHz, but I don't think
>>> that's a worthwhile tradeoff.
>>
>> I like the idea of having a box with fewer but faster cores for the
>> not-as-parallelizeable tasks. 16/3.4GHz seems like a nice compromise. (What
>> is the speed of a new 24-core setup?) Of course well-used notebook servers
>> like sagenb.org are very parallelizeable.
>>
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I am -1 to having just two more identical machines. Why
>>>> not foster some diversity?
>>>
>>> Because the hardware is a *dream* to work with.  The design is modular
>>> with captive screws, the rails snap into the rack and slide out
>>> smoothly, the ILOM makes it possible to hard boot / diagnose hardware
>>> from a remote location (we can flash the BIOS from anywhere in the
>>> world!)
>>
>> I really like being able to switch between machines and use the same
>> binaries, so that's a reason to reduce hardware diversity.
>>
>> - Robert
>>
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