On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 9:55 PM, John Cremona <[email protected]> wrote: > On 27 June 2010 18:17, Minh Nguyen <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hi David, >> >> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Dr. David Kirkby >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> <SNIP> >> >>> Do you know of any project where it is difficult to report a bug upstream >>> because the upstream developers are regularly unhelpful? >> >> Not that I know of. But Pari/GP comes a bit close. The last time I >> tried to email its list, I could not figure out how to successfully >> email the list. I think William also has a similar experience. > > Please be sure to make this crucial distinction: the pari developers > themselves (Karim Belabas and Bill Alombert) are extremely obliging > and helpful, as far as they can be (one of them has been rather ill > recently, for example, and there are only two of them). But their > mailing lists (pari-dev, pari-support) and bug-tracking systems are > not the best. Here's a good example: yesterday while working on > #9343 WIlliam and Robert B found 2 bugs in the patest pari version we > were using, reported them, and they were fixed within hours -- so the > latest spkg at that ticket has already had these bugs fixed.
Indeed. My experience in the last two days gives me the impression that the PARI developers not only greatly appreciate bug reports from us, but that they are amazingly good at fixing the bugs quickly. Emailing the PARI list is painful. However, submitting a *bug* to the pari developers via the official way is very, very easy. William > >> >> >>> If there are any, >>> perhaps we should consider removing that part from Sage. >> >> Pari/GP is here to stay. > > Certainly. It would be months or years work to rewrite the number field code. > > John > >> >> >>> Many of the projects in Sage have multiple developers, and naturally some >>> are more helpful than others. Also, some people have off-days, and tend to >>> react aggressive one day, when another they will not. >> >> I have a thesis proposal/application coming up, so I just ignore emails. >> >> -- >> Regards >> Minh Van Nguyen >> >> -- >> To post to this group, send an email to [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to >> [email protected] >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel >> URL: http://www.sagemath.org >> > > -- > To post to this group, send an email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to > [email protected] > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel > URL: http://www.sagemath.org > -- William Stein Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org -- To post to this group, send an email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URL: http://www.sagemath.org
